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Coronavirus (COVID-19)

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Probably the biggest news story of the year thus far. What is everyone's opinion? Overblown? Not overblown?

China kept people in their houses, Italy on lockown, Germany (Merkel) says 2/3rd of their citizens will contract it, conferences and conventions everywhere being cancelled...

I'm not sure if I am over-worrying or not worrying enough.
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It's not overblown simply due to how serious everyone is taking it.

I went into a normal grocery store (not Costco) and the toilet paper row was empty.

The entertainment industry has already taken a beating. Delayed movies, delayed games, Seattle's restaurants are empty.

Pretty much all large events are being cancelled.

The US military is preparing to cope with COVID-19 not now, but planning for what they expect the real outbreak will be next fall/winter

The financial markets are a mess, compounded by the oil wars going on right now. No one needs oil and everyone is flooding the market with it. On a side note, in the late 70's early 80's there were serious thoughts that we would run out of oil by 2020. I find it funny that we have more oil than we know what to do with in 2020 with no end in sight.

No fans allowed at the March Madness tournaments. Biden/Sanders debate with no audience.

Trump is addressing the nation tonight regarding the Coronavirus.

This is far from complete. There is an endless stream of cancelled, delayed, altered events.

I noticed less cars on the streets the past few days.

You have to take this seriously because the reaction to it has been far beyond anything I've ever seen regarding a pandemic in the US. The world is taking it seriously as well.

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OK this just became scary.

Crypto market crashed 25% overnight and that was already down 25% over the past few weeks. (edit: make that 30% overnight)

Futures halted for a second time in a week on the stock market. If not, the market would crash maybe the worst since the crash of 1929. Can guarantee the market will be halted again after the open.

It's full on panic in the financial markets. This transcends political views.

NBA Season suspended (NBA player has COVID-19)
California cancels all gatherings of more than 250 people.

This is nuts. And I mean blow right by recession to depression nuts.

And what was up with Trump during his speech last night? He looked like he was about to keel over. Like him or not, he didn't look healthy last night.

With Tom Hanks and his wife testing positive for COVID-19, it also escalates things with some well known faces getting it.

For the first time I'm actually looking at my stock of Soylent and happy I have a month's supply. I imagine Soylent is getting huge orders right now.

This is going to get nasty in the short term. These severe measures to contain CORVID-19 are impressive but at the same time, it's going to crash the market and cause panic. Stopping all flights to Europe (except the UK) is major.

Almost all businesses are impacted by this. Tech sector for sure. Entertainment (movies./restaurants, etc) hugely impacted.

I think COVID-19 itself we'll get over but the steps taken and panic over the virus may cause a long term downtrend. I think we won't know how bad until next fall/winter.

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I went to the grocery store yesterday. It wasn't too bad other than no paper products (paper towels, toilet paper, etc) and a lot of the cleaning products were gone. I went back today and it was 10x more crazy. It was like people preparing for a hurricane or something.

Items that there were none of (that I remember): Bread, milk, eggs, fresh meat (and not much frozen), pasta, pasta sauce. tuna (canned and in the packages), a lot of the canned items in general (vegetables, soup, etc), rice, tortillas, parmesan cheese (that one hurt since I wanted to get some more), and potatoes and onions were also gone. The shelves were full of these items yesterday.

I didn't check the beverages section but I'd imagine the water was gone. Which is weird because like. The city water supply will probably keep on functioning normally. One can hope, anyway!

This just goes to show our country isn't ready for things like this. I can't imagine how it would be if some other greater disaster took place.
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Aslanna wrote:
March 13, 2020, 5:37 pm
I went to the grocery store yesterday. It wasn't too bad other than no paper products (paper towels, toilet paper, etc) and a lot of the cleaning products were gone. I went back today and it was 10x more crazy. It was like people preparing for a hurricane or something.
Friday I went to the grocery store. Not a single paper or plastic item available. Entire row was completely empty.

No:

Toilet paper
Paper Towels
Napkins
Paper Plates
Bowls
Plastic utensils

NOTHING.

a few months ago I accidentally grabbed a six pack of paper towels thinking it was toilet paper. Now I'm glad I have that as backup!

I think twice about using paper products like napkins. I actually use less TP : )

There isn't a "normal" supply issue with these things. It depends on when the horders feel they have enough, we can start buying these products again. That may be awhile because now everyone is going to grab these products when they see them...not because they're hording but because they are low on supply at home. Need to revisit this in a week, month, year.

I don't think food will be a problem, but I have a two month supply of Soylent so I may be better off than most in that area. The less I need to go to the grocery store the better.

I took a trip behind the (then) Iron Curtain in 1984 to the now non existent country Czechoslovakia. I observed many things on that trip but pertaining to this topic, there was zero toilet paper in public places , restaurants museums, etc. It sucked. I ended up wiping my ass with part of a paper gift bag. I think we're temporarily heading that direction. Any places, that are still open, will probably have toilet paper issues as people will steal it...yes even those big rolls, they just unroll it if cant take the entire roll.

We are now a society where taking a shit is an issue or soon will be. It will be an interesting month, and they another interesting round 2 next fall. I saw one estimate that this present "norm" could last up to 18 months.

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Went to grocery store this morning. I scored a box of tissue paper. The only paper product on the shelves.

They took away the hand baskets so I had to carry everything I bought.

Things looked pretty grim in the store. Some lady was coughing on one of the self check outs so I waited for a different one.

I wiped everything down with surface wipes when I got home. Amazing the things you touch when you are consciously paying attention.

Would suck balls to be working in a grocery store, convenience store, etc right now...not to mention health care workers. This was my one trip out of my home in the past week and don't plan any for another week+.

Take COVID-19 seriously and your health in general because anything other than COVID goes wrong and you'll have a hard time getting treatment etc with the hospitals full of patients etc.

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I went to the grocery store on Wednesday. Surprisingly, other than paper products and cleaning supplies, they were fairly well stocked. There were limited amounts of some things (tuna, rice, uh.. some others) but for the most part you wouldn't be able to tell that strange things were afoot at the Circle K. Most of the basics (bread, milk, eggs, etc) were in stock.

They had no sanitizing wipes at the door but there was a dude wearing a mask that would spray and wipe down the cart handle for you.

Truly fuckin surreal times we are in. This was my first time out in 2 weeks. I have enough shit for at least 4 weeks now as long as I don't want fresh fruits or veg.

Oh yeah, one thing, most of the people there were totally unaware of Social Distancing. omg stop getting so close to me!
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So I now live in Wichita, KS. The 'Rona is not too bad here, despite the fact that our state goobermint was slow to react; being a small, non-tourist orientated state played in our favor.

I'm in I.T., classed as essential, so I'm still working, but thankfully we've been allowed to work from home since 17MAR2020. Gone to a couple client offices, and even people who are close talkers have been keeping a distance.

Of note: working from home rules. I'm hourly, so they discourage massive OT, but some stuff simply can't be done during the day. But now that I can break up my day into more manageable pieces instead of the tyranny of COMMUTE/OFFICE/LUNCH/OFFICE/COMMUTE, it's way easier to get the after hours work in without crushing my morale or blowing up the payroll.

I really hope that some positive lessons are learned from this. So many jobs can and should allow for working from home, period.
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Agreed! I have worked from home for 4 or 5 years now, so the impact on me has been relatively low. I've been saying the same thing though, I think one of the positives to come out of the other end of this is going to be forcing the conversation of working from home.
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Where I am we've been working from home since 16-Mar. They just extended that to 04-May.

It's going to be so hard going back to the office. That hour a day spent commuting adds up over time!

But on the flip side I'm grateful that my job so far hasn't really been impacted and that I've been able to do it remotely. There are a lot of others out there not as fortunate.
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I scored a 24 mega roll pack of toilet paper on Amazon Prime today that delivers April 8th. It's sold out again.

I even paid less than what my AMD 3950X CPU cost me!

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