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http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/wb/thehobbit/

When the dwarves start singing... chills man. Chills. It looks and sounds amazing. I'm so happy all the original talent is involved from top to bottom.

2012 is going to be an epic year for movies. Dark Knight Rises, Prometheus, Avengers, Amazing Spiderman, World War Z, and untold numbers other movies I am interested in such as MIB 3, Woman in Black, Dredd, Red Dawn, Iron Sky, Dark Shadows, and a host of others!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0k3kHtyoqc for those who don't have QuickTime installed because Apple is evil.
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God, I hope they improve the effects in final post. The greenscreen backgrounds are just as fake-HDR-looking as they were in LOTR. They were okay back then, but I think effects work has improved enough over the past 10 years that we can expect better.
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Drolgin Steingrinder wrote:God, I hope they improve the effects in final post. The greenscreen backgrounds are just as fake-HDR-looking as they were in LOTR. They were okay back then, but I think effects work has improved enough over the past 10 years that we can expect better.
I thought the trailer looked great for a product a full year away. They still have 2 months of shooting left and the movie is going to be in 48fps and 3D. Lots to do in a year!
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It worries me when any movie is made in 3D.

I got severe geek chills watching this incredible trailer. LotR is so fucking magical, and it's pretty clear already that this will be just as immersive.
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We old people don't need 3D!

Better without!
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Kwonryu DragonFist wrote:We old people don't need 3D!

Better without!
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Bubba Grizz wrote:
Kwonryu DragonFist wrote:We old people don't need 3D!

Better without!
Quoted for Truth!
Ditto.
I already wear regular glasses, those smeared garbage glasses are a hinderance and the effect is ho hum
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When I read that this was going to be 48 fps, i made an audible 'cool' remark. I had to explain to my wife and as a non-gamer she had no idea or point of reference to how much better this will make the movie look.
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Chidoro wrote:When I read that this was going to be 48 fps, i made an audible 'cool' remark. I had to explain to my wife and as a non-gamer she had no idea or point of reference to how much better this will make the movie look.
James Cameron wants 60fps for the next Avatar! True story!
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A movie is not a video game. It should be shot at 24 fps.
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Who are you.. The movie police?
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Aslanna wrote:Who are you.. The movie police?
No. I just happen to know what I'm talking about.
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Apparently you don't since people who make like.. actual movies and shit don't agree with your definition. Some of them are probably meat eaters so that would explain it.
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Aslanna wrote:Apparently you don't since people who make like.. actual movies and shit don't agree with your definition. Some of them are probably meat eaters so that would explain it.
Most of the films that have been made since the 1920s, were shot at 24 fps.
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Aslanna wrote:Apparently you don't since people who make like.. actual movies and shit don't agree with your definition. Some of them are probably meat eaters so that would explain it.
Spang helped shoot this movie in college on some Sony camcorder one time. I think he knows what he's talking about. He's an instant professional in whatever he does after 2 days.
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Spang, so we are suppose to keep making movies using old technology used in the 1920s? How does anyone progress? You should still be using black and white then. Fucking tool.
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Lynks wrote:Spang, so we are suppose to keep making movies using old technology used in the 1920s? How does anyone progress? You should still be using black and white then. Fucking tool.
I never said that a movie couldn't be shot at a frame rate other than 24, but if you want your film to have that film look, it should be shot at 24 fps.
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Well, apparently very few care about that "film look" lately. Look at all the CGI garbage all over the place in movies now...
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Spang.. Expert on the "FILM LOOK" for two whole days. Which by the way in your first post you didn't mention at all. Once again we're all just supposed to magically know exactly what you are referring to. What.. you couldn't find any articles to copy and paste in?

Most of the photographs that have been made since the 1920s were shot using 'film' does that mean digital photographs don't count as photography? Probably in your elitist dimwwitted mind they do not.

Based on what I have read 24fps was chosen based on audio criteria and price of film not because it gave some magical look to a movie.

Peter Jackson wrote:Originally, 24 fps was chosen based on the technical requirements of the early sound era. I suspect it was the minimum speed required to get some audio fidelity out of the first optical sound tracks. They would have settled on the minimum speed because of the cost of the film stock. 35mm film is expensive, and the cost per foot (to buy the negative stock, develop it and print it), has been a fairly significant part of any film budget.

So we have lived with 24 fps for 9 decades--not because it's the best film speed (it's not by any stretch), but because it was the cheapest speed to achieve basic acceptable results back in 1927 or whenever it was adopted.
But he's obviously someone who knows nothing about filmmaking.
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Aslanna wrote:Most of the photographs that have been made since the 1920s were shot using 'film' does that mean digital photographs don't count as photography?
It's still photography. Likewise, a movie shot at a frame rate other than 24 fps is still a movie.
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Spang wrote:A movie is not a video game. It should be shot at 24 fps.
Spang wrote:a movie shot at a frame rate other than 24 fps is still a movie.
So what is it? The first quote, you imply using 60 fps would be a video game but then you say it's still a movie. College fucked you up even more.
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Spang wrote:
Lynks wrote:Spang, so we are suppose to keep making movies using old technology used in the 1920s? How does anyone progress? You should still be using black and white then. Fucking tool.
I never said that a movie couldn't be shot at a frame rate other than 24, but if you want your film to have that film look, it should be shot at 24 fps.
Actually, you did.
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Drolgin Steingrinder wrote:
Spang wrote:
Lynks wrote:Spang, so we are suppose to keep making movies using old technology used in the 1920s? How does anyone progress? You should still be using black and white then. Fucking tool.
I never said that a movie couldn't be shot at a frame rate other than 24, but if you want your film to have that film look, it should be shot at 24 fps.
Actually, you did.
Actually, I didn't. Should does not mean must.
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Actually you did. You said that anything other than 24 fps would be like a video game, therefore, if one would like a movie to look like a movie, it has to be at 24 fps.
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Lynks wrote:You said that anything other than 24 fps would be like a video game...
Bullshit. I said a movie is not a video game. And that a movie should be shot at 24 fps.
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Says who? Oh yeah. You the expert. So if Mr Jackson is shooting his at 48fps does that not make it a movie? What do you call it oh great mind of the cinema?
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Aslanna wrote:Says who? Oh yeah. You the expert. So if Mr Jackson is shooting his at 48fps does that not make it a movie? What do you call it oh great mind of the cinema?
A movie shot at a frame rate other than 24 fps is still a movie.
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Spang wrote:Should does not mean must.
Actually, "must" is a synonym of "should". When you're done telling Peter Jackson he doesn't know how to make a movie, you should probably go speak to the good people at Merriam-Webster.
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Spang wrote:
Lynks wrote:You said that anything other than 24 fps would be like a video game...
Bullshit. I said a movie is not a video game. And that a movie should be shot at 24 fps.
I'm going to throw some algebra and code at you.

If a MOVIE != VIDEOGAME and a MOVIE should be shot at 24 fps, then MOVIE = 24 fps and VIDEOGAME != 24 fps. Since this MOVIE > 24 fps, then Avatar != MOVIE... in your opinion.

So just to sum it up for you, you're implying that anything other than 24 fps = like a video game.
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Lynks wrote:So just to sum it up for you, you're implying that anything other than 24 fps = like a video game.
No, I'm not.
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By that logic, films should all by CHC driven and stay in B&W. A lovely little bit called innovation keeps pushing the boundaries of the film experience. I think many folks here had taken a class or two in film... Not sure everyone is so locked in to professors' opinions, however.
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3-D is a gimmick, not an innovation.
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He's not a troll. He just happens to know what he's talking about. Obviously.
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While I agree that 3D in its current (especially consumer) usage is clunky, it is certainly innovative. Granted, stereoscopic filming opens up new avenues, even if practical usage is not quite there yet.
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Sylvus wrote:
Spang wrote:Should does not mean must.
Actually, "must" is a synonym of "should". When you're done telling Peter Jackson he doesn't know how to make a movie, you should probably go speak to the good people at Merriam-Webster.
I still argue that there's a subtle difference between "must" and "should".
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You must do a better job at forming an argument, but you likely should fail at that. So much for collegiate education, eh?
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Lies.

This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Warner Bros Entertainment.
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That's pretty lame when they file a copyright claim against a trailer. Something you'd think they would want everyone to see.
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http://youtu.be/cBlRbrB_Gnc?hd=1

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I bought my Imax 3D tickets last week for Saturday, Dec 16th! That was the earliest the wife and I could coordinate a date since she'll be out of town until Friday evening. None of the 45fps theaters in Michigan are close to us :(

That will be 2 weeks after moving into our new house. My parents are watching my kids overnight too, so we're going to make the most of our date time!
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I want my 3 hours back...
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Saw this in 3D over the weekend. The movie is beautiful to watch and the story line is alright. How they are going to stretch this small book out into 3 movies is going to be interesting. I imagine there is going to be a lot of "new" content added. For what it was, this is a great movie and worth seeing in theaters to gain the full experience. It is nothing like the first 3 so just don't go in with those expectations and just enjoy a fresh new movie with some characters you already know.
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Wasn't impressed with the trailer and wasn't a big fan of the LoTR movies. I'm going to wait on this one.

Didn't Gandalf (the actor) break down into tears on the set because he felt so pathetic in his role?
McKellen, who has played Gandalf since Jackson's first "Lord of the Rings" film, grew frustrated after he had to perform the scenes in "The Hobbit" with a green screen instead of with other real actors. Gandalf, a wizard who is typically taller than the dwarves and hobbits featured in the story, couldn't be featured on the same set. McKellen told Contact Music, "All I had for company was 13 photographs of the dwarves on top of stands with little lights — whoever's talking flashes up."

Guess Sir McKellen's patience wore thin, as the celebrated actor broke down, saying, "Pretending you're with 13 other people when you're on your own, it stretches your technical ability to the absolute limits."

"I cried, actually. I cried," the actor confessed. "Then I said out loud, 'This is not why I became an actor'. Unfortunately the microphone was on and the whole studio heard."
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Boogahz wrote:I want my 3 hours back...
Yeah, too long. I think I can read the novel faster than the trilogy will take to watch.
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This movie would probably be a lot better if it were filmed at 24 fps.
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The Hobbit would work great as a single movie. Trying to squeeze three movies out of it is lame.

Imagine how horrible LoTR would have been if it was stretched into nine 3 hour movies. Those books are more detailed and longer than the Hobbit.

I feel another George Lucas situation here. (except LoTR wasn't as good as the original Star Wars)
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