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Anyone able to share invites? I sure wouldn't mind one =)
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ya, whats yo email dawg

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*~*stragi*~* wrote:ya, whats yo email dawg
wtf

We're in the same state. We're practically brothers like Jaime and Tyrion Lannister in a Game of Thrones! Where's my invite!

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Would LOVE an invite if any more are available or if anyone else has one. Thanks in advance.
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I already got one, but if anyone needs feel free to shoot me a pm with your mail address
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Winnow wrote:
*~*stragi*~* wrote:ya, whats yo email dawg
wtf

We're in the same state. We're practically brothers like Jaime and Tyrion Lannister in a Game of Thrones! Where's my invite!
WHATS YO EMAIL DAWG? sort of required.

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i have two invites but you need to tell me your email.

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Tegellan wrote:I already got one, but if anyone needs feel free to shoot me a pm with your mail address

Thanks Tegellan! I'm in!

Thanks to Aabidano for trying earlier.

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they seem to have opened the flood gates, i have 175 invites now.. i think.
i must be getting old because this site confuses the hell out of me.

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I added Felicia Day to my Followers circle so far. That's about it! It's similar to (but way cooler) than following someone on Facebook or Twitter.

I see Google + as having the most potential when compared to Twitter and Facebook. The ease of searching and organizing circles is a big "plus".

Circles is huge IMO. Great way to organize. I made a VeeshanVault Circle of course. Other easy pre made ones are for Family and Following. I made one to add the other 11 college friends from my Fantasy Football League.

You can always set up Circles for things like "Fake Work Friends" so anyone you don't really want to be friends with you can stick in there and make sure you choose not to stream their posts.

The best part is your Circle names are private to you. So you could put me in "Winnow is a Dick" circle and I wouldn't know it.

I did change my name to make it easier to find me on searches, which, BTW, are great. People searches use the Ajax Live Feedback with Image that I've been wanting to use on my website forever but lack the skillz or at least patience to use Django and learn Python. You can change your name any time you want which I can potentially see as a problem. You can change your name to a celebrity which causes confusion on searches. There's an easy way to report impersonators though.

I'm curious if a VeeshanVault Circle could be created that anyone could add themselves to. Right now, All circles are created by you and you add people manually to the circle, but it would also be nice to have public (or password protected) circles that people could join and would be automatically added to that circle for anyone that was already a member of that circle.

If anyone wants an invite just PM me with a gmail email address.

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Facebook has the same thing with groups.

You can share what you want with any group you have. I can share certain family pics with my side of the family and close friends while excluding my wife's side of the family.

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Too bad FB buried that particular feature among all the other crap. Google+pretty much bases their whole structure on Circles whereas Groups were like an afterthought for Facebook. Or so I heard.. I don't use FB that much!
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Aslanna wrote:Too bad FB buried that particular feature among all the other crap. Google+pretty much bases their whole structure on Circles whereas Groups were like an afterthought for Facebook. Or so I heard.. I don't use FB that much!
They did a shitty job with groups in FB, it's essentially a paralell site.

G+ is better organized, don't see myself becoming a fanatic though. Too many reality based things to do.
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Here's a good site if you're bored and have Google + to find some peeps to follow:

http://www.recommendedusers.com/

I'm not using Google + much yet but I'm think more about possibly using it more than all the other social sites combined!


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I predict it will be gone within 6 months. Not that it is a poor product, but because most will likely not bother switching from FB. They probably should allow pulling friend lists from FB and linking comments, unless they have already.
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I think there was some of that.. Put Facebook put the kibosh on things like that awhile ago so that people wouldn't migrate.

I'd wager your prediction is wrong though. It's Google!
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Google doesn't always hit :)

Personally, I think it is better in concept than FB. But, I just don't see it lasting. I will be perfectly happy to be wrong here!
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Canelek wrote:I predict it will be gone within 6 months. Not that it is a poor product, but because most will likely not bother switching from FB. They probably should allow pulling friend lists from FB and linking comments, unless they have already.
Don't think I've been on it in weeks, or more than 5 times total. There's seriously just no point. The design of it is just unintuitive and silly imo. I think 6 months is a bit short, but I don't believe it'll do much better than matching MySpace's current active usage level.

Here's some fun numbers of the competition:

More than 750 million active users
50% of our active users log on to Facebook in any given day
Average user has 130 friends
People spend over 700 billion minutes per month on Facebook
Average user is connected to 80 community pages, groups and events
Average user creates 90 pieces of content each month

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Google + will survive and pass Facebook eventually. Mark this post! May take several years but it will happen. Facebook is total crap. Google + is less crappy.



Remember Alta Vista? Remember Yahoo...like when they were actually used as search engines?

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That's quite a leap! Think you've gone all "puppy with a new chew toy" again. Haha!
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Canelek wrote:That's quite a leap! Think you've gone all "puppy with a new chew toy" again. Haha!
:D

I find myself using G+ with co-workers a bit, family is still all on FB but I never gained much interest in it.
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Google+ is superior to Facebook in every way that I care about, short of user-base. I will continue cross-posting things in G+ and FB until enough of my FB friends migrate, and then I'll stop using FB.

Pretty sure that bonuses for all Google employees are tied to the success of G+, I don't think this is a fight they are going to give up easily.
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Sylvus wrote:Google+ is superior to Facebook in every way that I care about, short of user-base. I will continue cross-posting things in G+ and FB until enough of my FB friends migrate, and then I'll stop using FB.

Pretty sure that bonuses for all Google employees are tied to the success of G+, I don't think this is a fight they are going to give up easily.
Want to be G+ bros? I will put you in my 'bros' circle.

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Siji wrote:
Canelek wrote:I predict it will be gone within 6 months. Not that it is a poor product, but because most will likely not bother switching from FB. They probably should allow pulling friend lists from FB and linking comments, unless they have already.
Don't think I've been on it in weeks, or more than 5 times total. There's seriously just no point. The design of it is just unintuitive and silly imo. I think 6 months is a bit short, but I don't believe it'll do much better than matching MySpace's current active usage level.

Here's some fun numbers of the competition:

More than 750 million active users
50% of our active users log on to Facebook in any given day
Average user has 130 friends
People spend over 700 billion minutes per month on Facebook
Average user is connected to 80 community pages, groups and events
Average user creates 90 pieces of content each month
That's cause 50% of the users are women that can't kick their farmville addiction.

I think the Goog will hoover up the smarter people and Facebook will be the online equivalent of Idocracy.

Anyone that can read anything Zuckerburg says and not leave Facebook is fucked in the head. Doesn't mean they have to go to G+, but he makes Steve Jobs look shy and self-effacing, and George Orwell would kick him in the balls.
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Zaelath wrote:I think the Goog will hoover up the smarter people and Facebook will be the online equivalent of Idocracy.
Time will tell. At present there's absolutely no reason to switch. The only way G+ is going to be successful is if they can give a worthy reason to switch. Not being Facebook isn't going to cut it.

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Siji wrote:
Time will tell. At present there's absolutely no reason to switch. The only way G+ is going to be successful is if they can give a worthy reason to switch. Not being Facebook isn't going to cut it.
Zaelath wrote:I think the Goog will hoover up the smarter people and Facebook will be the online equivalent of Idocracy.

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Almost all my G+ whatevers are EU folks from work. FB is all US family & friends.
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Aabidano wrote:Almost all my G+ whatevers are EU folks from work. FB is all US family & friends.
It's like you're making my case for me ;)
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The crew from Oz all stayed on our internal Twitter-ish system :lol:

Kiwis are on G+
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Winnow wrote:Google + will survive and pass Facebook eventually. Mark this post! May take several years but it will happen. Facebook is total crap. Google + is less crappy.

Remember Alta Vista? Remember Yahoo...like when they were actually used as search engines?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/0 ... 83919.html

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3 months and you can already see the tombstone being made. Google+ is a joke and an amazingly bad attempt at taking on Facebook. That's not any kind of proof of Facebook quality, but further proof of how Google as a whole is losing touch. These days I find myself more and more avoiding anything Google where before I sought out Google alternatives for everything. The last product I still used regularly was Google reader. They've recently fucked that all sorts of up, and I no longer use it. I still think 6 months is too short, but I have zero doubt that Google+ will go away at some point a year or two from now when nobody remembers it even existed (ala Google Wave). Either that or it'll be morphed into something else entirely. Regardless, I couldn't care less at this point.
Shortly after Google launched its new social network in June, many companies—including several online magazines, Slate among them—attempted to create “brand profiles” on the service. The rush was a testament to Google’s power to drive a flood of users to any new site it launches. Though Google+ was pretty rough around the edges, many observers called it a credible alternative to Facebook, so it made sense for companies to get in on the ground floor.

Yet Google seemed completely surprised by this turn of events. A product manager posted a message discouraging businesses from creating Google+ profiles, and the company began shutting down the profiles posted by renegade firms. This prompted many creative workarounds—TechCrunch jokingly created a page for a fellow named Techathew Cruncherin—but Google was unmoved. (Cruncherin’s profile was shut down.) The episode illustrated a persistent and likely fatal problem for Google’s effort to take on Facebook: There’s nothing to do on Google+, and every time someone figures out a possible use for it, Google turns out the lights.

Google did finally release brand pages this week—here’s Slate’s page—but at this point the effort might be moot. The search company says its network has attracted more than 40 million users in the months since it launched, which likely makes Google+ the fastest-growing social network of all time. But considering Google’s marketing muscle—it hasn’t been shy about directing Web searchers to Google+, and everyone who’s logged in to a Google account sees the Google+ toolbar at the top of every Google page—it would be a surprise if Google+ didn’t have so many users.
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The real test of Google’s social network is what people do after they join. As far as anyone can tell, they aren’t doing a whole lot. Traffic-analysis firms have consistently reported Google+’s traffic to be declining from its early peak. Even Google’s own executives seem to have gotten bored by the site. After several public posts in the summer, co-founders Larry Page and Sergey Brin dropped off the site in the fall; they only started posting once more when bloggers began pointing out their absence. Eric Schmidt, Google’s executive chairman and former CEO, posted his first public message when Steve Jobs died. That was three months after the social network went live.

I was an early Google+ skeptic. Shortly after it launched, I likened its main feature—the ability to divide your friends into discrete groups, called Circles—to the process of creating a seating chart for your wedding. In theory, it was appealing to send “private” messages to certain groups, but in practice I thought most people would find it tedious to categorize their friendships. And apart from the Circles feature—which Facebook quickly co-opted—I didn’t think Google+ distinguished itself from its rivals in any compelling way. I still don’t.

And yet, I’ve been surprised by just how dreary the site has become. Although Google seems determined to keep adding new features, I suspect there’s little it can do to prevent Google+ from becoming a ghost town. Google might not know it yet, but from the outside, it’s clear that G+ has started to die—it will hang on for a year, maybe two, but at some point Google will have to put it out of its misery.

Why am I so sure that Google+ can’t be saved? Because there’s no way to correct Google’s central failure. Back when companies were clamoring to create brand pages on the network—or users were looking to create profiles with pseudonyms, another phenomenon that Google shut down—the company ought to have acceded to its users’ wishes and accommodated them. If Google wasn’t ready for brand pages in the summer, it shouldn’t have launched Google+ until it was. And this advice goes more generally—by failing to offer people a reason to keep coming back to the site every day, Google+ made a bad first impression. And in the social-networking business, a bad first impression spells death.

I know this sounds unfair: Facebook had years to add all the features it has now, so why should we demand that Google create a perfect substitute at launch time? But that’s just the thing—taking on a behemoth like Facebook is an unfair fight. Google seems to think about its social network in the same way it thinks of any other kind of software—as a “product” that it can design step-by-step, starting with a small number of innovative features and working up from there.

That launch-first, fix-it-later strategy has worked marvelously for Google in the past. Gmail didn’t match all of Microsoft Outlook’s features from the beginning—it didn’t even have a delete button—but the stuff it did have (lots of storage and fast search) was so compelling that people were willing to stick with it until it became the best email program in existence. In the same way, I switched to Chrome because it was faster than any other browser I’ve ever used—and I stuck with it even though it lacked add-ons or the ability to bookmark many tabs at once. (It has since added those features.)

But a social network isn’t a product; it’s a place. Like a bar or a club, a social network needs a critical mass of people to be successful—the more people it attracts, the more people it attracts. Google couldn’t have possibly built every one of Facebook’s features into its new service when it launched, but to make up for its deficits, it ought to have let users experiment more freely with the site. That freewheeling attitude is precisely how Twitter—the only other social network to successfully take on Facebook in the last few years—got so big. When Twitter users invented ways to reply to one another or echo other people’s tweets, the service didn’t stop them—it embraced and extended their creativity. This attitude marked Twitter as a place whose hosts appreciated its users, and that attitude—and all the fun people were having—pushed people to stick with the site despite its many flaws (Twitter’s frequent downtime, for example). Google+, by contrast, never managed to translate its initial surge into lasting enthusiasm. And for that reason, it’s surely doomed.

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Well, Google isn't shy about abandoning ideas/products. Not sure if this will stick, but I am part of the demographic that is far too lazy and disinterested to look up all those emails and people and organize them just to have something that is different than Facebook.

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