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Moron logic? I was just telling you my reasons for what I think I will get. What's so moronic about that?

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No, it was a poll to get people's opinion in a straightforward manner without all the side jaunts. Do NOT confuse "Is the world better off without Saddam?" with "Should we have done what we have done?" Those are two very different issues. If you made a poll about the second, you...

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Animale wrote: Guess we'll just have to wait for the history books to have people understand how morally corrupt this white house is.

If someday the Republicans do not control everything then maybe...

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Well, not only did Bush ignore the Kyoto treaty, but the more telling things are Bush's relaxing of pollution standards for power plants and other things...

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The memo doesn't state WHO is fixing the intelligence. It doesn't state that Bush directed the "fix". For that matter it doesn't change the underlying fact that much intelligence about Saddam and Iraq was deeply troubling. Minds are already made up, this memo is too vague to matter. But B...

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So, you found one comment made by Saddam that was likely from a morale boosting speech and assume that was the original intent of the war? Not like the leader of any country ever made any far fetched claims... like oh, let's say... misison accomplished to boost troop morale. :lol: Despite the fact ...

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Sorry, I edited after that. If there is something glaring, please feel free to inform me..

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Hmm sounds familiar... In whos fucking universe? Invading and occupying a sovreign nation halfway across the globe sounds similar to a decades long border/land dispute between 2 neighbouring countries ? *boggle* Iraq didn't just invade to take back some portion of it's border, Saddam wanted to marc...

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Him attacking Iran was in the strategic interest of the United States, and precisely the reason we were supplying him with the weapons. what on earth are you talking about? Right, but if he were not an aggressive person he could have told us to stuff it. He didn't HAVE to attack Iran when there wer...

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The US used WMDs on Japan. What's your point? True, but they were a different class of WMDs. You could argue that more lives were saved by the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki than would have been had we conducted a protracted land invasion. I'm not sure if it was the right action or not though. Y...

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Well, what about the Iran-Iraq war?

He used WMD on the Iranians. That's not good. (Yes they were supplied by us but that he used them...)

As a sidenote, that should make it more clear that he didn't have WMDs when we invaded since he was not hesitant to use them.

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How exactly is the "world in general" better off without him running the country? Well he wasn't the most peaceful dictator...But that's what we liked about him. =P How about the 25k dead Iraqis and the hundreds of thousands more who's homes and lives were destroyed by SHOCK AND AWE? Are ...

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Yes it was. We helped put him there. If someone else had gone in to take him out, it would have only led to even more fighting and instability in the area. Instituting stability in the region is the U.S. goal there from what it appears....even if it requires mass force to make it happen. At the ver...

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Well I don't know if I will get an XBox 360 or the Revolution. Hell who am I kidding I probably will get a Revolution. C'mon, new Zelda and Mario titles... But what is so revolutionary about it? They are promising a revolution but won't say what it will be yet. Almost Definitely getting a PS3. It lo...

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I don't think anyone will dispute that his removal can be anything less than a good thing.(except for maybe Nick and Kyo and other anti-American) I think the dispute comes in how it was done. Exactly. It wasn't our friggin problem. The money we spent and the lives we lost as well as the civilian li...

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Winnow wrote: The stuff we're dealing with started long before the present politicians were around that we bitch at today.

But they are definitely NOT helping things either...

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Jice Virago wrote:Bush could assape a preeschooler on national TV while shooting wheelchair bound old ladies and shouting "I LOVE THE COCK" at the top of his lungs, and the GOP Spin machine would still have it under wraps.

Heh that was funny when he did that.

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kyoukan wrote:you don't mind if your president manipulates you and lies to you to start a war?

Most people don't.

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In New Jersey it was, last I checked.

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When my daughter turns 16 she can go get her drivers licenses. She can then go drive her car thru the front of a mall causing thousands of dollars of damage. Ye, I am held responsible!! Why? She is a minor Well who else are they going to get compensated from? It's not like she owns anything other t...

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Because they are a minor? Jesus Christ man. Are you fucking for real? Why can't a 13 year old decide to quit school? Answer that Corky. That was my point before. We TRY to shield them from these decisions for a while. When they are not pregnant, there is no problem. But when they are, a decision HA...

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But you still don't make any counter arguments... Why should a minor not be allowed to make a decision that will affect the rest of their life when they get pregnant?

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We do this to prevent them from having to make life changing decisions until they are old enough. To prevent them from getting into this situation until they can decide things for themselves. However, they CAN get pregnant before 18, which forces the issue. So I don't see why if they can get into th...

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Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:Some use their religions as an excuse to kill innocent civilians, some us it to save young impressionable, impulsive young women not to kill the baby growing inside them.

Right, so you see how that could be wrong if the tables were turned like that. Which is why said pregnant girl should decide.

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Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:Who the fuck are you to tell someone what to base their decisions from?

Exactly.

People should not be making life changing decisions for other people based on religion.

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I already stated using a life threatening illness like appendicitus and trying to correllate it to pregnancy was stupid. I can always tattoo it on your forehead if that helps. I don't know how else to tell you that. And I stated that it was a valid comparison because it is a parent made decision th...

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No one lashed out. Becuase someone gives an opinion that differs from yours, it does not constitute lashing out. I feel a parent should be involved in decisions made by a minor. You do not feel that way. You feel a minor is fully capable of grasping the consequences of such a decision, even though ...

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Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote: ...you can communicate with the wit and skill of a dingleberry.

Sylvos wrote: Translation: My name is Lohrno and I'm a fucking idiot.

What did those contribute to the discussion?

Anways, if you don't want to defend your position, or answer my questions, fine that's your perogitive...

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How did I lash out? I gave you what the law is in ohio. No I am sorry I was actually not talking about you. I was talking to those not really discussing the issues, and making ad hominems. That makes sense. #2 is a little suspect though. Does that mean they can order an abortion against a minor's w...

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I'm sorry, I don't engage in flamewars anymore. Try kyoukan if you like. I'm sure she'll be happy to oblige you. He wasn't trying to engage you in a flamewar. He was just pointing out what a few of us here see quite clearly......you can communicate with the wit and skill of a dingleberry. I'm not t...

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I'm sorry, I don't engage in flamewars anymore. Try kyoukan if you like. I'm sure she'll be happy to oblige you.

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Sylvos wrote:This is the drivers license post all over again with Lohrno. GG.

Translation: Yeah, sorry I've got nothing.

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I'm pointing out examples in which this might not be good. Oh well I am just going to say I disagree that parents should be making decisions about abortion for their children against their will, and leave it at that until someone can tell me a good reason for keeping parental control over children a...

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In case you missed it I am making the case that it's not always good for parents to be able to force medical decisions on children. This is how they are linked. They are only the same thing in that they involve parents making decisions for children. The same action can have different consequences as...

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Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:Try again retard.

Ad hominem is the last resort of someone who doesn't have a better argument.

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Well I'll try to point out the connection I am seeing, if the parents are doing such things in either case on religious grounds, and the child does not have such beliefs, then isn't the child being forced into something against their will based on religion? Conversely in the appendectomy example, su...

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Winnow wrote: "Anyone but Bush" You weren't kidding. This guy sucked ass but people still bit on his bullshit lines.

A pet rock would do a better job as President of the United States than Bush.

Seriously.

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You dumb ass, appendicitus is life threatening. A pregnancy isn't unless it is diagnosed by a doctor to be as such. Bad example, really really bad example. You're fucking fired. Right but I'm asking - should we really let parents only decide such things as determine the future of a child? IE: Shoul...

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Should she have say apendicitis, should her parents be allowed to disallow an appendectomy because they don't want to live with the costs of college? (Or add some religious reason for less surreality(is that a word?)).

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The US doesn't make a comment on it's authenticity, and the Brits say it's true.

Where is the outrage??

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cid wrote: He did not say anything about the parents telling the child what to do.

True. But he did strongly imply it. Was I wrong in thinking that Midnyte only wants abortion with parental consent?

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Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote: A woman who goes to the abortion clinic with her mom and dad and gets it safely taken care of, does not make me sick.

I don't agree. She should make the decision herself about the future outcome of her WHOLE LIFE.

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Holy crap! After I read that I was going to the bathroom, and I slipped and fell! It was AIDS spilled all over the floor! They oughta be more careful with that kinda thing!

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But, but I thought this wouldn't happen once abortion was legalized. It would happen a lot more if it were not. I'm not sure who said it wouldn't happen...but lets look at the situation. I bet Texas has some law about kids under 18 not being able to have an abortion without parent's consent, and sh...

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Right so even that would be stretching it a lot.

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Right so even that would be stretching it a lot.

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That is sick.

#1 Why couldn't she have a normal abortion and have to resort to that?

#2 At most this boy should have been charged with assault.

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Happy Birthday Pilsburry!

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I think because of 3 things. 1) They aren't churning them out like in a Crayon or a Car factory. Costs are higher to produce when you're not producing them in mass quantities. 2) Research and development. 3) Heavy use of titanium. These things need titanium or aluminum to fly well. Titanium is not c...

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