patch 1.12!

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » July 7, 2006, 9:11 am

go to worldofwarcraft.com and check it out, badass for pvp players!

now there will be cross realm PVP! so i dont have to put up with the dumbass alliance on my server who race AV and dont know how to spell defense in wsg, also no wait time, at all

also, even more badass they are putting conquerable spots throughout the world to add a revolutionary level of world PVP

as someone who just hit 60 yesterday to find out alliance are a bunch of little morons on my server in PVP, this is great

miir · Post by **miir** » July 7, 2006, 10:29 am

also, even more badass they are putting conquerable spots throughout the world to add a revolutionary level of world PVP

How is it revolutionary when Anarchy Online had the same thing over 4 years ago.

Psyloche · Post by **Psyloche** » July 7, 2006, 10:43 am

miir wrote:
also, even more badass they are putting conquerable spots throughout the world to add a revolutionary level of world PVP
How is it revolutionary when Anarchy Online had the same thing over 4 years ago.

I don't know how revolutionary it is, or if I'd call it that, but I must say I'm pretty excited about it, along with cross-server BG's. Although it might just mean I'm fighting even more tier 2/3 Alliance in my zomgawesome blues. I hate losing to epic'd out teams, but god I love when I take down a few during the games.

Sargeras · Post by **Sargeras** » July 7, 2006, 12:12 pm

I'm assuming based on their current infrastructure that servers will be linked based on their actual physical location in the world. So all the EST servers will be linked, PST's together, etc.

One thing that could really suck is if you link servers together that share the same faction inbalance, as in 3 servers that have a significant number of more Alliance than Horde, that'll just make the queues even longer rather than shorter. Unfortunately, Blizzard can pose the arguement that "server populations change all the time. So there is no way to determine if the balance is even now, but unbalanced next week."

I guess it's gonna be trial and error. This is something no one has ever tried before, so it'll definitely be guinea pig testing for a while.

It would be awesome if they could link up with servers from other time zones. I'd love see Pyrella in a BG and give him a good smacking!

Cotto · Post by **Cotto** » July 7, 2006, 2:49 pm

World PvP -

[11:42pm] Alliance Has Gained Ironforge!
[11:43pm] The Horde Is Attacking Ironforge!
[11:45pm] The Horde Has Gained Ironforge!

Repeat for the next twelve months.

Animalor · Post by **Animalor** » July 7, 2006, 4:06 pm

If you thought things were bad in Tarren Mills/Southshore before...

I wonder how this will affect battleground usage.

miir · Post by **miir** » July 7, 2006, 4:13 pm

Animalor wrote:If you thought things were bad in Tarren Mills/Southshore before...

I wonder how this will affect battleground usage.

Anything that encourages world PvP is a good thing.

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » July 7, 2006, 5:08 pm

Psyloche wrote:
miir wrote:
also, even more badass they are putting conquerable spots throughout the world to add a revolutionary level of world PVP
How is it revolutionary when Anarchy Online had the same thing over 4 years ago.
I don't know how revolutionary it is, or if I'd call it that, but I must say I'm pretty excited about it, along with cross-server BG's. Although it might just mean I'm fighting even more tier 2/3 Alliance in my zomgawesome blues. I hate losing to epic'd out teams, but god I love when I take down a few during the games.

about that, not confirmed but i heard a rumor from the same people that told me about cross realm pvp before it was announced that fully epiced out players will not be able to fight the same BGs as those of us who are not, so if an epicd player were to join a 60, non epic battleground clicking his gear would lead to "you cannnot use this item here"

masteen · Post by **masteen** » July 7, 2006, 5:11 pm

Sargeras wrote:One thing that could really suck is if you link servers together that share the same faction inbalance, as in 3 servers that have a significant number of more Alliance than Horde, that'll just make the queues even longer rather than shorter. Unfortunately, Blizzard can pose the arguement that "server populations change all the time. So there is no way to determine if the balance is even now, but unbalanced next week."

I only know of like 4-5 servers that have more Horde than faggots, so isn't continuing imbalance (and long-ass queues for said faggots) a forgone conclusion?

Post by **pyrella** » July 7, 2006, 8:08 pm

Sargeras wrote: I'd love see Pyrella in a BG and give him a good smacking!

So you'd bubble hearth in 45 seconds instead of 2 mins?! =P

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » July 7, 2006, 8:10 pm

Xzion wrote:about that, not confirmed but i heard a rumor from the same people that told me about cross realm pvp before it was announced that fully epiced out players will not be able to fight the same BGs as those of us who are not, so if an epicd player were to join a 60, non epic battleground clicking his gear would lead to "you cannnot use this item here"

I would have to call bullshit on that rumor. There really is no reason/method I could think of that would really work. What could differentiate between a purple and a BWL purple, and why would the people who had that gear be stopped from using it AFTER entering the zone when they could before?

Bubba Grizz · Post by **Bubba Grizz** » July 8, 2006, 12:14 pm

I could see having a point value embedded on the gear so that if you are at a certain point value you could not enter or get segregated to a different queue. Granted this would have to have had a lot of foresight on Blizzards part. I just don't see that happening.

dibit_eq · Post by **dibit_eq** » July 8, 2006, 2:36 pm

They could use the piece of gears level as a rating system. I think the BLW purples are all lvl 75-77 items, except nefarions lvl 83 pieces. Other purples that 60's could wear like the Heroism set are just lvl 60 items. I dont know if they'll actually put in a mechanic like this, but just an idea on how they'd implement it.

miir · Post by **miir** » July 10, 2006, 1:19 pm

dibit_eq wrote:They could use the piece of gears level as a rating system. I think the BLW purples are all lvl 75-77 items, except nefarions lvl 83 pieces. Other purples that 60's could wear like the Heroism set are just lvl 60 items. I dont know if they'll actually put in a mechanic like this, but just an idea on how they'd implement it.

Based on their track record, it will take them 8-10 months to implement a system like that.

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » July 10, 2006, 2:47 pm

dibit_eq wrote:They could use the piece of gears level as a rating system. I think the BLW purples are all lvl 75-77 items, except nefarions lvl 83 pieces. Other purples that 60's could wear like the Heroism set are just lvl 60 items. I dont know if they'll actually put in a mechanic like this, but just an idea on how they'd implement it.

I would hope not. It would require people to carry multiple sets of gear. Then again, they have to do that for the resists now! Really though, I don't see this being a good idea in any way other than to lessen the whining on one side and open it up on another since those with the BWL purples would be waiting in queue even longer.

Psyloche · Post by **Psyloche** » July 10, 2006, 2:48 pm

Xzion wrote:
Psyloche wrote:
miir wrote:
also, even more badass they are putting conquerable spots throughout the world to add a revolutionary level of world PVP
How is it revolutionary when Anarchy Online had the same thing over 4 years ago.
I don't know how revolutionary it is, or if I'd call it that, but I must say I'm pretty excited about it, along with cross-server BG's. Although it might just mean I'm fighting even more tier 2/3 Alliance in my zomgawesome blues. I hate losing to epic'd out teams, but god I love when I take down a few during the games.
about that, not confirmed but i heard a rumor from the same people that told me about cross realm pvp before it was announced that fully epiced out players will not be able to fight the same BGs as those of us who are not, so if an epicd player were to join a 60, non epic battleground clicking his gear would lead to "you cannnot use this item here"

I really don't think they'd go to the detail of separating people in Naxx, AQ40 and BWL gear from the scholo, strat, DM, BRS gimps like myself. I'm not even sure I'd want that all that much. However if they did, I wouldn't object to it, but it would mean they probably wouldn't finish that patch until after the Burning Crusade, which won't be released til after I grow a second penis.

Gemily · Post by **Gemily** » July 11, 2006, 7:44 am

pyrella wrote:
Sargeras wrote: I'd love see Pyrella in a BG and give him a good smacking!
So you'd bubble hearth in 45 seconds instead of 2 mins?! =P

Hahahaha

Sargeras · Post by **Sargeras** » July 11, 2006, 12:17 pm

pyrella wrote:
Sargeras wrote: I'd love see Pyrella in a BG and give him a good smacking!
So you'd bubble hearth in 45 seconds instead of 2 mins?! =P

Oh it's on like Donkey Kong beotch~!

Bubba Grizz · Post by **Bubba Grizz** » July 11, 2006, 2:18 pm

Ok it really pisses me off that on the WoW website they have a big banner talking about the Rogue changes but all they have is a talent calculator. I can't remember what it was like before so how am I supposed to notice the little nuance changes they made? I wish they'd come right out and say what exactly they changed.

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » July 11, 2006, 2:46 pm

From what I noticed, the main (if not all) changes are in the Subtlety tree.

Aabidano · Post by **Aabidano** » July 11, 2006, 3:06 pm

Bubba Grizz wrote:I wish they'd come right out and say what exactly they changed.

Agro from Felstriker is increased 1000%.

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » July 11, 2006, 3:25 pm

Aabidano wrote:
Bubba Grizz wrote:I wish they'd come right out and say what exactly they changed.
Agro from Felstriker is increased 1000%.

that would mean I could no longer hit auto-attack

Bubba Grizz · Post by **Bubba Grizz** » July 11, 2006, 4:39 pm

Aabidano wrote:
Bubba Grizz wrote:I wish they'd come right out and say what exactly they changed.
Agro from Felstriker is increased 1000%.

Bah damn warriors can't keep the aggro off me as it is. I have to start swinging a trout instead of my felstriker.