MLK Day?

Midnyte_Ragebringer · January 14, 2005, 11:18 pm

It should be called Civil Rights Day instead. The instead of alienating the other 77% of the population all could unite and get behind such a day.

nobody · Post by **nobody** » January 14, 2005, 11:37 pm

what the hell is wrong with it. it is named after a proponent of civil rights who despite some flaws was a good man and died for what he believed. the day is to celebrate our movement closer to the ideals he believed in. not just the man himself. by the way he pushed for equality of more than just blacks. he absolutly included whites as well as other races.

Acies · Post by **Acies** » January 14, 2005, 11:37 pm

Martin Luther King Jr's message was about equality. Why can't we all get behind a message that promotes acceptance and growth and a man who died to try to facilitate that?

Fesuni Chopsui · Post by **Fesuni Chopsui** » January 14, 2005, 11:47 pm

Acies wrote:Martin Luther King Jr's message was about equality. Why can't we all get behind a message that promotes acceptance and growth and a man who died to try to facilitate that?

Because bigots are stupid?

PS - /slap Acies!

Midnyte_Ragebringer · January 15, 2005, 12:12 am

You got to think deeper guys.

Why has the seperate President days been combined into one Presidents Day?

Why are there no other federal holidays named after an individual anymore?

Why is MLK the only one that remains?

nobody · Post by **nobody** » January 15, 2005, 12:44 am

hmmm i thought Christmas was named after someone? maybe you're right we should change mlk day to civil rights day AND Christmas to winter break huh?

Midnyte_Ragebringer · January 15, 2005, 12:47 am

nobody wrote:hmmm i thought Christmas was named after someone? maybe you're right we should change mlk day to civil rights day AND Christmas to winter break huh?

When you make these oranges to apples comparisons you cloud the question at hand. Try and focus on the question at hand.

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » January 15, 2005, 1:02 am

Not really. Of course, we don't know that Jesus was white. Personally, if he existed I highly doubt he was white considerng the area he was born in.

nobody · Post by **nobody** » January 15, 2005, 1:17 am

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:
nobody wrote:hmmm i thought Christmas was named after someone? maybe you're right we should change mlk day to civil rights day AND Christmas to winter break huh?
When you make these oranges to apples comparisons you cloud the question at hand. Try and focus on the question at hand.

you're just dodging a sound rebuttal. weak. you make it difficult to argue a conservative point of vew in this forum.

Lalanae · Post by **Lalanae** » January 15, 2005, 1:25 am

The holiday is not named Black People day. It only alienates those who think it is....

Lynks · Post by **Lynks** » January 15, 2005, 1:54 am

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:You got to think deeper guys.

Why has the seperate President days been combined into one Presidents Day?

Why are there no other federal holidays named after an individual anymore?

Why is MLK the only one that remains?

Why carve 4 Presidents on the side of a rock? Who cares? Why do you want to change it, is it offending anyone? I really want to know.

Why has the seperate President days been combined into one Presidents Day? Because there were too many holidays and the governement, or congress, decided to simplify the calendar by merging them into 1 holiday. Thats why.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » January 15, 2005, 2:10 am

Right or wrong, they needed a holiday named after an ethnic person. MLK is certainly worthy person. My vote has always been for George Washington Carver.

MLK: I have a dream!

Carver: Yeah? Well I have 100 uses for a peanut. Dream in one hand and fill the other with peanut butter and see which hand keeps you alive longer when you're stuck in a cave!

MLK: Our people are being oppressed!

Carver: peanut butter...peanut oil...

MLK: wtf is wrong with you?

Carver: peanut bar...peanut brittle...

MLK: fuck you and your peanuts!

Carver: adhesives...axle grease...bleach...buttermilk...chili sauce...ink...instant coffee...linoleum...mayonnaise...meat tenderizer...metal polish...paper...plastic...pavement...shaving cream... shoe polish...synthetic rubber...talcum powder...wood stain...

GWC was the man. MLK lead marches but Carver invented some cool stuff. I'd rather have a scientist than a reverend as the focus of a holiday. At the very least, make it a combo King/Carver day.

George Washington Carver, the wizard with plants, was a true American folk hero. Out of the simple peanut plant, Carver derived three hundred different products; from the sweet potato, he got 118. What other person performed such wizardry with crops, especially in impoverished southern soil? Carver is our most famous chemurgist, and certainly, when we were growing up in the sixties most small children, black and white, could name him by sight. Even today, on the roster of African-American scientists, of whom there are many far too unknown, Carver exceeds everyone else in popularity. He combined thrift and industry, faith, and science to emerge as a kind of a black Horatio Alger figure. And to those who doubted the ability and intelligence of African Americans, Carver was the race's vindication. Though for years he was lauded as the one "token" black scientist, Carver's legacy is indisputable. As a proponent of scientific agriculture, Carver distinguished the study of farming while emphasizing the necessity of environmental conservation. He confronted an increasingly marginal southern economy devastated by war, poor farming, malnutrition, ignorance, and he was able to improve the health and agricultural output of both black and white southern farmers, developing hundreds of uses for a mono-crop economy. He exemplifies the ability to make much out of little----a persistent theme in black history.

As for Christmas. It's not christmas when it comes to vacations. It's called winter break. The only Chistmas holiday is in your head. It's certainly not recognized by the government or most companies.

nobody · Post by **nobody** » January 15, 2005, 2:57 am

Winnow wrote: As for Christmas. It's not christmas when it comes to vacations. It's called winter break. The only Chistmas holiday is in your head. It's certainly not recognized by the government or most companies.

http://www.opm.gov/fedhol/2004.asp

Christmas Day

Washington's Birthday

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » January 15, 2005, 3:23 am

nobody wrote:
Winnow wrote: As for Christmas. It's not christmas when it comes to vacations. It's called winter break. The only Chistmas holiday is in your head. It's certainly not recognized by the government or most companies.
http://www.opm.gov/fedhol/2004.asp

Christmas Day

Washington's Birthday

What a shame.

Mplor · Post by **Mplor** » January 15, 2005, 3:23 am

* This holiday is designated as "Washington's Birthday" in section 6103(a) of title 5 of the United States Code, which is the law that specifies holidays for Federal employees. Though other institutions such as state and local governments and private businesses may use other names, it is our policy to always refer to holidays by the names designated in the law.

And, Midnyte, if by "73%" you think you include all your brother whiteys, then here's a hearty fuck you.

You will never speak for me, and god willing you will never speak for the majority of us.

Dregor Thule · Post by **Dregor Thule** » January 15, 2005, 6:32 am

Damn. Midnyte, find a gun and kill yourself. I kid you not.

Aruman · Post by **Aruman** » January 15, 2005, 8:25 am

Personally I am sick of all this holiday nonsense.

What MLK did was important, but no more important than many other people who contributed important ideas and so on to improve everyones lives. Some quite a bit more significant than what MLK did also.

Spang · Post by **Spang** » January 15, 2005, 8:31 am

I don't care where you live in America, if you're on Martin Luther King Boulevard, there's some violence going on. - Chris Rock

Midnyte_Ragebringer · January 15, 2005, 11:29 am

So much anger and hatred. So sad.

I suggest something that will bring people together and you call me names preferring to keep the people polarized.

What a shame.

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » January 15, 2005, 11:55 am

columbus day, christmas....you have no argument unless your against those too...

MLK was one of the most important figures in the last 200 years of American history, he sure as hell did more good for this world then your Jesus, he never was the inspiration for any crusades or inquisitons, just for a basic and wonderful idea that we are still learning to accept to this day, equality.

Lynks · Post by **Lynks** » January 15, 2005, 12:06 pm

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:I suggest something that will bring people together and you call me names preferring to keep the people polarized.

You never answered why it alienates the country.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · January 15, 2005, 12:11 pm

Why does the truth hurt you people so much?

In REALITY who truly celebrates MLK Day? Black people. (13% of the population)

Can you grasp the point? Or shall you continue to ask more stupid questions and then when you don't get answers to them make your silly stance? Really. It's almost like many of you are running on a script.

Lynks · Post by **Lynks** » January 15, 2005, 12:47 pm

I bet more than 13% of the population celebrate it. Just because you don't doesn't mean the entire nation doesn't either.

You said that it wasn't fair that all the President's day were merged into one. I told you the reason why it happened. Now unless they had MLK day, Malcom X day, Washington Carver day and you wanted to merge all of those into one, I think people would support you. But this is not the case.

You are the most racist/bigoted/homophobic person I know and you seriously need to take a good look at yourself in the mirror, 77% of the population here can agree with me on that.

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » January 15, 2005, 2:28 pm

Has Midnyte ever answered a question asked to him?

Niffoni · Post by **Niffoni** » January 15, 2005, 3:02 pm

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:In REALITY who truly celebrates MLK Day? Black people. (13% of the population)

Your perception of reality is a beautiful and unique snowflake. It's that kind of diversity of thought that makes life so wonderful. I like you.

Nilaman · Post by **Nilaman** » January 15, 2005, 3:14 pm

If 4 more of em get shot we might have the whole week off.

Kylere · Post by **Kylere** » January 15, 2005, 3:55 pm

Midnyte the only person who thinks you are not a racist is you.

The sooner you realize this the sooner you can work on being a decent human being. I would support Christmas being changed to Winter Fest and no longer alienating 95% of the ENTIRE BLOODY WORLD, long before I would mess with MLK day.

Bad enough some states have so many people like you that they are too stupid to take a day off with pay.

Lalanae · Post by **Lalanae** » January 15, 2005, 3:58 pm

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:
In REALITY who truly celebrates MLK Day? Black people. (13% of the population)

What do you know about reality? Evidently nothing. Stop making unfounded statements as if you are a spokesman for non-black America. Maybe if you made an effort to understand why MLK was so important, without automatically pulling the race card, people wouldn't find you so disgusting as a human being. He inspired people OF ALL COLORS at a time of conflict. Try reading his speeches and history you IGNORANT FUCK. As usual, your opinions are based on infantile gut reactions and not on reason.

its ironic that neocons like to call liberals whiners, but Midnyte is the biggest whiner I have ever encountered in my life. Also, pulling the race card is pretty funny too.

WAAAA!! I'M ALIENATED BECAUSE A BLACK PERSON HAS A HOLIDAY NAMED AFTER HIM!!! WAAAA!!!

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » January 15, 2005, 4:35 pm

A thread titled 'MLK Day?' with the author being Midnyte.

Did you expect it to be anything else?

Atokal · Post by **Atokal** » January 15, 2005, 4:42 pm

Martin Luther King was an amazing man, blessed with courage and a conviction that he carried to the world. Having the day named after him is in and of itself a show of tolerance at the least and acceptance at best.

The polarization you are talking about Mid continues because of mindsets like the one you have.

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » January 15, 2005, 4:52 pm

Midnyte just managed to ally Kylere, Atokal, Lalanae, Aslanna, Xzion and me together. You are indeed getting rid of the polarization Midnyte!

nobody · Post by **nobody** » January 15, 2005, 4:55 pm

mid, this isn't even a right or left issue either. you are just stupid. i really feel embarrased to call myself a republican around you.

Dregor Thule · Post by **Dregor Thule** » January 15, 2005, 5:25 pm

I need to get the thread bronzed and mounted so I can hang it on my wall.

Asheran Mojomaster · Post by **Asheran Mojomaster** » January 15, 2005, 7:02 pm

Wow...everyone hates you Midnyte. That sucks.

Markulas · Post by **Markulas** » January 15, 2005, 7:15 pm

None Africian-Americans can't celebrate Martin Luther King day? I guess since I'm white I can't follow and celebrate his message of equality huh?

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » January 15, 2005, 7:26 pm

nobody wrote:mid, this isn't even a right or left issue either. you are just stupid. i really feel embarrased to call myself a republican around you.

In a way it is, Dick Cheney VOTED AGAINST the creation of the MLK holiday...even still, most republicans are reasonable enough to realize the importance of this american revolutionary

Midnyte_Ragebringer · January 15, 2005, 8:53 pm

Asheran Mojomaster wrote:Wow...everyone hates you Midnyte. That sucks.

It's okay. They don't know me. So it don't bother me.

Lynks · Post by **Lynks** » January 15, 2005, 9:24 pm

Denial, such a wonderful thing.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · January 15, 2005, 9:34 pm

Lynks wrote:Denial, such a wonderful thing.

Poeple who think they know everything...a more beautiful thing.

nobody · Post by **nobody** » January 15, 2005, 9:46 pm

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:
Lynks wrote:Denial, such a wonderful thing.
Poeple who think they know everything...a more beautiful thing.

as such you must be prince charming

Lalanae · Post by **Lalanae** » January 15, 2005, 10:00 pm

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:
Lynks wrote:Denial, such a wonderful thing.
Poeple who think they know everything...a more beautiful thing.

as in people who think they are right and everyone else is wrong? how fitting.

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » January 16, 2005, 1:52 am

so the thrust of this thread is that MLK's message only resonates with blacks?

If so that is the most ignorant post in the history of VV. and that is saying something, espeically in light of Mid's pick of the Rams to beat the Falcons

WHAHHHAAAT!!!!

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » January 16, 2005, 1:55 am

speaking of which anybody catch Curtis Marin in that Lawn Jockey outfit of his???!!!

wtf was that??!?!?!

doesnt he know so many ignorant white mo fos are watching tonight?!??!?!?

Kylere · Post by **Kylere** » January 16, 2005, 2:21 am

You know, Racism is so ingrained in Midnytes world that he is unaware of it entirely.

BTW some of you are making asinine assumptions about a political party based on Midnyte, that is unfair. But I must admit that his part of the republican party caused me to go libertarian, but I must in addition point out that there are just as many losers running around representing the democrats.

Remember Crossfire was TWO losers, not just one, and for every Rush Limbaugh there is a Michael Moore.

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » January 16, 2005, 2:28 pm

i was drunk last night!

Kylere · Post by **Kylere** » January 16, 2005, 2:30 pm

Voronwë wrote:i was drunk last night!

AhAH!! Posting while intoxicated, that will be a 500vv fine!

Thess · Post by **Thess** » January 16, 2005, 3:53 pm

Voronwë wrote:i was drunk last night!

roflmao

nobody · Post by **nobody** » January 17, 2005, 7:00 am

happy nigger day mid

Midnyte_Ragebringer · January 17, 2005, 11:31 am

nobody wrote:happy nigger day mid

It's too bad you and the others have turned this thread into all that hatred and division. Maybe you should re-read what I said in the beginning. The only people turning this thread into racist non-sense is you.

Sionistic · Post by **Sionistic** » January 17, 2005, 11:37 am

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:It should be called Civil Rights Day instead. The instead of alienating the other 77% of the population all could unite and get behind such a day.

So are you saying white people cant unite behind a black man?

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