Day of Remembrance

Gzette · Post by **Gzette** » April 16, 2009, 7:50 pm

Two years ago today a mad man killed 32 innocents at Virginia Tech.

Protest today in Austin, TX

Students oppose guns at college

About 200 University of Texas and Texas State University students gathered at the Capitol today, the second anniversary of the Virginia Tech shootings, to protest House Bill 1893, which would allow students to carry concealed handguns on campuses in Texas. The bill is sponsored by state Rep. Joe Driver, R-Garland.

Students walked out of class earlier to rally. Word spread of the protest on Facebook and through emails for the past several days.

Alex Greenberg, 19, said he walked out of his architecture class to protest. “Guns on campus take away from the atmosphere,” he said. “You shouldn’t have to worry about someone acting on an impulse and something terrible happening at school.”

“I became involved in this issue, because I lost a lot of close friends in the shooting at Virginia Tech,” said John Woods, who is both a University of Texas graduate student and a Virginia Tech alum.

In a Facebook message sent Wednesday, Woods said his girlfriend was killed in the shootings. “Since then, I’ve seen those in favor of guns on campus cite the Virginia Tech shooting over and over again — but not once have they asked the experts on school shootings. Not once have they asked survivors, ‘What was it like in there? Would guns help?’”

On April 16, 2007, Seung-Hui Cho fatally shot 32 people before he killed himself on the campus in what is called the worst mass shooting in modern U.S. History. Virginia Tech students and faculty planned to observe today as a Day of Remembrance.

Today, Woods lead students in a moment of silence and rang a bell 32 times in honor of those killed.

Driver said HB 1893 is meant to prevent a repeat of a shooting like the Virginia Tech incident.

“If Virginia Tech had not kept the campus a gun-free zone, some people could have been saved,” Driver said.

The rally is a way for people to act on their First Amendment rights, Driver said. “I hope that they respect my Second Amendment rights as much as I respect their First.”

State Rep. Eddie Rodriguez, D-Austin, spoke during the rally against the bill. “Someone with a concealed handgun license is not a deputy sheriff or a police officer,” Rodriguez said. “If a campus police officer arrived at a school shooting, how will that person decide who is the good guy and who is the bad guy in that situation?”

In related news, officials at Stephen F. Austin University in Nacogdoches announced this morning that they are trying to determine who wrote notes and signs suggesting that “students will die” today. Click here for more on that story.

Thought we could use another gun control thread.

I personally have no problems with people owning guns, but educational facilities are not the place for them. Too many irrational over-emotional types on your typical campus. Also, The University of Texas is home to the 2nd worst of these shootings, when Charles Whitman offed 14 folks from the UT tower in 1966.

I think the argument that a gun is a defensive weapon is fundamentally flawed.

PS. Though utterly unrelated, I fell I should mention that I'm quite surprised there's been no discussion about all the tea bagging that went down yesterday.

Raistin · Post by **Raistin** » April 16, 2009, 7:59 pm

Why should we give attention to unAmerican people? Why were they not upset the past 8 years,when our rights were thrown out the window and all of a sudden upset when a black man is the leader of our country? Fuck them. Fucking traitors. I hope they move to Canada.
Reminds me of Blazing Saddles.Did you know it looks great on Blu-Ray dvd? I would watch again+++

Xatrei · Post by **Xatrei** » April 16, 2009, 10:06 pm

Allowing concealed carry on a university campus is batshit crazy. It amazes me when people try to paint this as a good idea.

As for the fools & their tea parties, the wife and I drove past the local Tea Party in town last night. The mayor of Hoover, a suburb of Birmingham, AL claims 5k+ were in attendance, but there's no way that crowd was more than 2 or 3 thousand (which is still an unfortunately large crowd, sadly enough). The park is adjacent to a community athletics complex which was crowded with kids baseball and soccer practices / games. Traffic was backed up quite a bit since the area isn't really designed to handle an influx of a few thousand rednecks. They were about 200 yards off the main road going past the park where they gathered. The PA system was cranked up, and we could hear them raving from a mile away. At one point, some lunatic was addressing the crowd and was frothing mad about Obama. He said "I told you Obama was a snake! WHAT DO WE DO WITH A SNAKE??? WE CUT IT'S HEAD OFF!!!!" Sadly, the crowd went nuts as he drove his point home. I was saddened by the overt racism (directed at hispanics, arabs, persians and blacks during our short time within earshot) contained in the ravings of the speakers and with the outright hatred expressed for those to the left of this crowd on the political spectrum. Surprisingly, there wasn't any noticeable mention of taxes or federal spending.

All of the press coverage that I've seen, including that of FNC, the event's de facto corporate sponsor, showed mostly small events with the same tenor. Even though I'm disturbed by these whackos, I'm comforted by the fact that the crowds were, in the greater scheme, pretty small.

Also, I agree with the sentiment, Raist, I wouldn't wish these anti-democratic scumbags on Canada!

Forthe · Post by **Forthe** » April 17, 2009, 12:25 am

Raistin wrote:I hope they move to Canada.

WTF why do you hate Canada?

Siji · Post by **Siji** » April 17, 2009, 12:44 am

Forthe wrote:
Raistin wrote:I hope they move to Canada.
WTF why do you hate Canada?

Jealousy.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » April 17, 2009, 1:35 am

Raistin wrote:Why should we give attention to unAmerican people? Why were they not upset the past 8 years,when our rights were thrown out the window and all of a sudden upset when a black man is the leader of our country? Fuck them. Fucking traitors. I hope they move to Canada.
Reminds me of Blazing Saddles.Did you know it looks great on Blu-Ray dvd? I would watch again+++

Great post!

Kilmoll the Sexy · Post by **Kilmoll the Sexy** » April 17, 2009, 9:19 am

Raistin wrote:Why should we give attention to unAmerican people? Why were they not upset the past 8 years,when our rights were thrown out the window and all of a sudden upset when a black man is the leader of our country? Fuck them. Fucking traitors. I hope they move to Canada.
Reminds me of Blazing Saddles.Did you know it looks great on Blu-Ray dvd? I would watch again+++

I would say it is because he is backing spending on stupid projects that will bankrupt our country. Lets push forward with a high speed rail so that the government (and our taxes) can subsidize your travel while we fall deeper into a hole that no one knows how to climb out of. Good planning!

miir · Post by **miir** » April 17, 2009, 9:54 am

I would say it is because he is backing spending on stupid projects that will bankrupt our country.

Because Bush backed spending on only sensible projects that left the US in an excellent financial state?

Kilmoll the Sexy · Post by **Kilmoll the Sexy** » April 17, 2009, 10:42 am

I am not discussing Bush. Once Bush was finished with his terms, we were talking about politicians who would be better for this country. Obama and his "change" were supposed to be magic happy times and all I have seen is 8 years of repressed Democrats dropping hundreds of billions of dollars on pet projects that do absolutely fucking nothing to fix the immediate or long-term needs of this country and its economy. It is like handing $1000 to a kid on his 13th birthday that has known about it and waiting for it since he was 5....he is going to blow it as fast as he can and mostly on bullshit.

The absolute bullshit coming from this administration in the first 3 months is just staggering. It took Bush a full term to really begin fucking things up and Obama and his handpicked crew of bumbling idiots is off to a start that could make Bush look like a genious....and that should be truly worrisome to everyone.

Just in the last couple of days we have seen this dumbass propose a multi-billion dollar high speed passenger rail system, propose that we help fix Mexico's problems, and one of his advisers is now publishing that they want to bail out the newspapers. Now exactly how he is going to run that high speed rail bullshit through and force taxpayers to pay for it is going to be spectacular seeing as how he intends to run it through states who are already running through the 10th Amendment reinforcing bills.

Xatrei · Post by **Xatrei** » April 17, 2009, 11:16 am

Well, there is something to be said for the hypocrisy of those who eagerly supported the Republican orgy of deregulation, out of control spending and useless wars for eight years, but scream their little bitch asses off now at the prospect of being in the minority. Obama is moving decisively to address the problems that you idiots created. In the short term, it requires spending more, and taking on more debt, but the long term goal is to be able to bring spending in line and to begin digging ourselves out of the hole that the once ballyhooed compassionate conservatism made. Maybe we can even work towards restoring the surplus that the ever-so-thrifty conservatives magically transformed into a giant deficit.

Kilmoll the Sexy · Post by **Kilmoll the Sexy** » April 17, 2009, 11:39 am

By taking on more debt do you mean carbon taxing and completely fucking every person in the working class so we can have a socialist republic?

miir · Post by **miir** » April 17, 2009, 11:48 am

This is going to be fucking awesome listening to Kilmoll whine like a little bitch for the next 8 years.

Xatrei · Post by **Xatrei** » April 17, 2009, 12:04 pm

Kilmoll the Sexy wrote:...so we can have a socialist republic?

Haha - I *wish* that Obama was so inclined. Unfortunately, he's far too moderate, and closer to the middle than anything else. The only people that consider him to be an out of control socialist are those so far to the ideological right that they half of the Republican party to be liberal. It is fun to watch your uninformed, delusional meltdowns over this stuff, though. Please, don't stop on our account!

miir wrote:This is going to be fucking awesome listening to Kilmoll whine like a little bitch for the next 8 years.

Agreed!

Fash · Post by **Fash** » April 17, 2009, 2:15 pm

Laugh all the way to the fucking bread line you commies

Gzette · Post by **Gzette** » April 17, 2009, 2:19 pm

what the fuck? I make a gun control post and now it's a tax and spend debate. I guess you can never predict the VV.

Bail out the newspapers? First I've heard of that. I hope they do, since I work at one.

miir · Post by **miir** » April 17, 2009, 2:41 pm

one of his advisers is now publishing that they want to bail out the newspapers

Rosa Brooks is officially an adviser to the Under Secretary of Defense for Policy.
She can talk all she wants about licensing media outlets and bailing out newspapers... but she's got zero fucking influence on such matters.

Xatrei · Post by **Xatrei** » April 17, 2009, 2:48 pm

Gzette wrote:what the fuck? I make a gun control post and now it's a tax and spend debate. I guess you can never predict the VV.

That's what you get for inviting a derail in your OP!

Gzette wrote:PS. Though utterly unrelated, I fell I should mention that I'm quite surprised there's been no discussion about all the tea bagging that went down yesterday.

Gzette · Post by **Gzette** » April 17, 2009, 2:51 pm

true

now, back on topic, or else I'll secedez from the Unionz LULZ!!!

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » April 17, 2009, 3:12 pm

Gzette wrote:what the fuck? I make a gun control post and now it's a tax and spend debate. I guess you can never predict the VV.

I was predicting it would turn into a thread about PIRATES. I was wrong.

Bubba Grizz · Post by **Bubba Grizz** » April 17, 2009, 4:05 pm

Yarrrr! Make him walk da plank!

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » April 17, 2009, 7:20 pm

miir wrote:This is going to be fucking awesome listening to Kilmoll whine like a little bitch for the next 8 years.

4 years! The libs will turn on him eventually.

Gzette · Post by **Gzette** » April 19, 2009, 7:46 pm

Winnow wrote:
miir wrote:This is going to be fucking awesome listening to Kilmoll whine like a little bitch for the next 8 years.

4 years! The libs will turn on him eventually.

I think you underestimate how much liberal resentment there is for the republican party bc of Bush. Obama would seriously have to shoot himself in the foot, and that may not be enough.

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » April 19, 2009, 8:01 pm

He could always shoot someone in the face.

Kilmoll the Sexy · Post by **Kilmoll the Sexy** » April 20, 2009, 9:40 am

Gzette wrote:
Winnow wrote:
miir wrote:This is going to be fucking awesome listening to Kilmoll whine like a little bitch for the next 8 years.

4 years! The libs will turn on him eventually.
I think you underestimate how much liberal resentment there is for the republican party bc of Bush. Obama would seriously have to shoot himself in the foot, and that may not be enough.

He is doing a real good job of blowing himself up. You forget that the moderate votes is what won Obama the White House....and he is very quickly losing all of that with the shit he has been backing and proposing. We all know the libtards would suck his cock to taste the cream of the messiah.

Drolgin Steingrinder · April 20, 2009, 10:50 am

Wow, you really are a sore loser, aren't you Kilmoll? What happens when you lose a game of monopoly, do you remove your kid from your will?

Kilmoll the Sexy · Post by **Kilmoll the Sexy** » April 20, 2009, 11:05 am

ORLY? This seems mild compared to the 8 years of horseshit that blew this forum up and chased away 70%+ of the people who used to be here. The only soreness about it is the ass rapings those of us that WORK are going to take to support the lazy fucks and the greedy corporations that failed in this country while Obama feeds cash to them. Oh, but wait....if you act now, we will repair Mexico and any other country that claims the US is responsible for the drug trade in their country.

We CAN fix Mexico and we can help start fixing the US in one step. Put a hundred thousand people to work with all those billions from the pork stimulus. Put contractors to work building giant fences with machine guns in towers along the entire border. Put more people to work running security along those borders. Put more people to work as INS rounding up every single illegal in this country and get them the fuck out. Shoot every single person going across that fence in either direction. Drug and gun problem solved. Illegal alien problem takes a huge step. I tsure as hell would do more for our economy than a goddamn high speed rail that th epeopel will end up paying for over the next 50 years before they realize it was the biggest watse of money in the history of the country.

You go ahead and call me a sore loser.....what I said was the plain truth. There are a pretty equal number of people that are hard core liberals and conservatives. The moderates are the ones that sway the elections and they turned over to Obama because of the failings of Bush. After 8 years of ungodly spending, it is going to end up back in the GOP because the only change people will have seen is the bit they have left in their pocket after Barry taxes it out of them.

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » April 20, 2009, 11:44 am

Sore loser is far too kind. You talk like someone who would dress up in Internet purchased riot gear and ambush police then put a gun in your mouth when you've taken everyone with you that you can. I think you're a fucking whack job. You're an accident waiting to happen.

Homeland Security just published a report about people like you for good reason. Your ilk will commit the next terrorist attack against America that will be justified by your twisted and warped points of view.

Xatrei · Post by **Xatrei** » April 20, 2009, 11:59 am

Not that reliance upon facts has ever been one of his strong points, but this is just another example of Kilmoll engaging in a delusional fantasy of wishful thinking. This notion of his is just not supported by the facts, as reflected in a broad sampling of current polling data. His popularity remains remarkably high, and his support among independents has remained largely unchanged throughout all of the major, credible polls subsequent to his inauguration. The country has a largely favorable view of Democrats at all levels, and largely believes that the country is heading in the right direction. There is huge support for the president's agenda, although those that live in the hard-right echo chamber might not realize it. Conversely, Republicans and conservatives are largely reviled by an overwhelming majority of the country. Their ideology has been shown to be the fraud that thinking people knew it to be all along, and has accordingly been rejected by the people.

Let Kilmoll and people like him cry and throw their tantrums and their tea parties. Their behavior just serves to further isolate them from the rest of the country.

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » April 20, 2009, 12:05 pm

Here's what I usually do when I see a Kilmoll post: Laugh and move on. If you reply than the terrorists have won. Don't let the terrorists win!

Funkmasterr · Post by **Funkmasterr** » April 20, 2009, 12:06 pm

Xatrei wrote:Not that reliance upon facts has ever been one of his strong points, but this is just another example of Kilmoll engaging in a delusional fantasy of wishful thinking. This notion of his is just not supported by the facts, as reflected in a broad sampling of current polling data. His popularity remains remarkably high, and his support among independents has remained largely unchanged throughout all of the major, credible polls subsequent to his inauguration. The country has a largely favorable view of Democrats at all levels, and largely believes that the country is heading in the right direction. There is huge support for the president's agenda, although those that live in the hard-right echo chamber might not realize it. Conversely, Republicans and conservatives are largely reviled by an overwhelming majority of the country. Their ideology has been shown to be the fraud that thinking people knew it to be all along, and has accordingly been rejected by the people.

Let Kilmoll and people like him cry and throw their tantrums and their tea parties. Their behavior just serves to further isolate them from the rest of the country.

Your level of arrogance turns my stomach. You are starting to sound like Hitlers (yes I did just go there) long lost cousin. Is your next move going to be to take Kilmoll's guns and use them to get rid of the republican idiots so the obviously superior race can thrive and hold hands with the global community?

Jesus christ.

Xatrei · Post by **Xatrei** » April 20, 2009, 12:14 pm

Funkmasterr wrote:Your level of arrogance turns my stomach. You are starting to sound like Hitlers (yes I did just go there) long lost cousin. Is your next move going to be to take Kilmoll's guns and use them to get rid of the republican idiots so the obviously superior race can thrive and hold hands with the global community?

Jesus christ.

Oh my. We're really stretching on this one aren't we? I think Kilmoll is a delusional nut, so I must be channeling Hitler or something, right? Give us all a break, ffs.

Kilmoll the Sexy · Post by **Kilmoll the Sexy** » April 20, 2009, 12:15 pm

Fairweather Pure wrote:Sore loser is far too kind. You talk like someone who would dress up in Internet purchased riot gear and ambush police then put a gun in your mouth when you've taken everyone with you that you can. I think you're a fucking whack job. You're an accident waiting to happen.

Homeland Security just published a report about people like you for good reason. Your ilk will commit the next terrorist attack against America that will be justified by your twisted and warped points of view.

That is a fair trade since I think you are a pacifist liberal pussy. If everyone that came to this country originally was like you, we would be under British or German control right now. And by the way you stupid fuck, I train people for safety and not to ambush police. For what it is worth, since you oppose defense so much, if I do witness you being beaten and killed, I will make sure to not intervene , but watch and take notes to turn over to the police after it is done.

Funkmasterr · Post by **Funkmasterr** » April 20, 2009, 12:25 pm

Xatrei wrote:
Funkmasterr wrote:Your level of arrogance turns my stomach. You are starting to sound like Hitlers (yes I did just go there) long lost cousin. Is your next move going to be to take Kilmoll's guns and use them to get rid of the republican idiots so the obviously superior race can thrive and hold hands with the global community?

Jesus christ.
Oh my. We're really stretching on this one aren't we? I think Kilmoll is a delusional nut, so I must be channeling Hitler or something, right? Give us all a break, ffs.

It's not anymore absurd than you claiming liberals are inherently smarter than conservatives. You are so goddamn high on yourself that it's sickening. It's a wonder we don't get things done in our government

Xatrei · Post by **Xatrei** » April 20, 2009, 12:36 pm

Funkmasterr wrote:It's not anymore absurd than you claiming liberals are inherently smarter than conservatives. You are so goddamn high on yourself that it's sickening. It's a wonder we don't get things done in our government

I could be wrong, and feel free to point out any situation where I've stated that liberals "are inherently smarter than conservatives," but I don't recall having ever said that. Liberals are more correct than conservatives, imo, just as it would appear that in your opinion conservatives are more correct than liberals. My belief that the left is generally correct does not imply that the right is stupid, just that the right is generally incorrect. There are lots of smart people that believe wrong things. I've met some truly brilliant and gifted people that also happened to be Christian zealots and right-wing whackjobs (or both).

Incidentally, to more accurately portray the archfiendishness factor of your hyperbole, I would be Stalin or Mao (you know, on the extreme left?) while Kilmoll, and perhaps you, would represent the hard-right fascist ideology. Get it straight, Herr Goebbels.

Kilmoll the Sexy · Post by **Kilmoll the Sexy** » April 20, 2009, 12:59 pm

I fancy myself more of a Jefferson....and not the one on the East side.

Funkmasterr · Post by **Funkmasterr** » April 20, 2009, 1:02 pm

Xatrei wrote:
Funkmasterr wrote:It's not anymore absurd than you claiming liberals are inherently smarter than conservatives. You are so goddamn high on yourself that it's sickening. It's a wonder we don't get things done in our government
I could be wrong, and feel free to point out any situation where I've stated that liberals "are inherently smarter than conservatives," but I don't recall having ever said that. Liberals are more correct than conservatives, imo, just as it would appear that in your opinion conservatives are more correct than liberals. My belief that the left is generally correct does not imply that the right is stupid, just that the right is generally incorrect. There are lots of smart people that believe wrong things. I've met some truly brilliant and gifted people that also happened to be Christian zealots and right-wing whackjobs (or both).

Incidentally, to more accurately portray the archfiendishness factor of your hyperbole, I would be Stalin or Mao (you know, on the extreme left?) while Kilmoll, and perhaps you, would represent the hard-right fascist ideology. Get it straight, Herr Goebbels.

Xatrei wrote:Their ideology has been shown to be the fraud that thinking people knew it to be all along, and has accordingly been rejected by the people.

This seemed to imply to me that republicans/conservatives are not "thinking people", which was mostly what I was replying to, but I think your attitude in general could use a tad adjusting.

I don't know where you get that I am a far right wing nut job like you keep implying. I haven't been active in any of the conversations about ideals that you would generally associate with that (ie: I'm not screaming about gun control all day, I don't believe in god so religion doesn't cloud my vision, I don't give a shit about abortion, etc.)

Kilmoll the Sexy · Post by **Kilmoll the Sexy** » April 20, 2009, 1:15 pm

Defending what this country was built on and gave it the freedom that it has today is not extremism. I suggest you look at some history books again and understand exactly how this country came to be.

Drolgin Steingrinder · Post by **Drolgin Steingrinder** » April 20, 2009, 4:13 pm

And I will reiterate, for probably the fortieth time on these forums: Where was your outrage when that document that you hold so dear was eaten and shat out by the Bush Jr. administration for two consecutive terms?

You don't give a shit about any of this. I'm fairly sure that to you, this is just sports, and now that the other team has momentum, you're doing what you can to talk shit. You don't know why you hate [other team from remarkably similar city to yours], you just do because.

Baby.

Kilmoll the Sexy · Post by **Kilmoll the Sexy** » April 20, 2009, 4:40 pm

That is complete bullshit. I had many issues with Bush and some of the jacked up shit he did. It may not have matched up to what you all had problems with, but I sure as hell did not swallow every burst of sunshine he shot out of his ass like every one of you has done for your golden boy. In case you don't bother to listen, which I know none of you fuckheads is capable of doing, there ARE Democrats that cross lines to the moderate side. Fuck, some of them are more like Republicans than half of the goddamn republicans. That certainly does not cover old Barry though.

I never did have a problem with the wiretapping. I still don't really. It is not like they are wiretapping joe homeowner or billy the drug dealer. They know shit like that is not standing up in a domestic court case. If they are trying to stop attacks with information they get from those taps....have at it boys! If they are trying to illegally tap shit to take cases to court for anythign else, well, it is not going to stand up and it would piss me off for wasting tax dollars more than it would for violating some right.

vn_Tanc · Post by **vn_Tanc** » April 21, 2009, 10:14 am

Kilmoll the Sexy wrote: That is a fair trade since I think you are a pacifist liberal pussy. If everyone that came to this country originally was like you, we would be under British or German control right now.

Yeah cos all those other British/German colonies are still totally under the control of their European masters. Because they are all pacifist liberal pussies.

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » April 21, 2009, 10:41 am

George Galloway said everything to the US Senate 4 years ago that I want to communicate to every Bush apologist and current Republican. Btw, the cringing little bitch who refuses to look him in the eye is Republican Norm Coleman, the guy currenlty losing his seat to Al Franken. This is a verbal beat down for the ages. You can view the entire speech on youtube. Below is just one of the juicier exerpts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrdFFCnY ... re=related

Drolgin Steingrinder · Post by **Drolgin Steingrinder** » April 21, 2009, 7:12 pm

Galloway is a complete crackpot, but has the advantage that very few people take him seriously, so he can say whatever he wants. Odd how that works. Court jester-type thing, I guess.

edit: I should say that on this, I completely agree with him though.

*~*stragi*~* · Post by ***~*stragi*~*** » April 21, 2009, 8:38 pm

Kilmoll the Sexy wrote:
Raistin wrote:Why should we give attention to unAmerican people? Why were they not upset the past 8 years,when our rights were thrown out the window and all of a sudden upset when a black man is the leader of our country? Fuck them. Fucking traitors. I hope they move to Canada.
Reminds me of Blazing Saddles.Did you know it looks great on Blu-Ray dvd? I would watch again+++

I would say it is because he is backing spending on stupid projects that will bankrupt our country. Lets push forward with a high speed rail so that the government (and our taxes) can subsidize your travel while we fall deeper into a hole that no one knows how to climb out of. Good planning!

I would use the fuck out of high speed rail since I hate flying.

*~*stragi*~* · Post by ***~*stragi*~*** » April 21, 2009, 8:44 pm

Kilmoll the Sexy wrote:I am not discussing Bush. Once Bush was finished with his terms, we were talking about politicians who would be better for this country. Obama and his "change" were supposed to be magic happy times and all I have seen is 8 years of repressed Democrats dropping hundreds of billions of dollars on pet projects that do absolutely fucking nothing to fix the immediate or long-term needs of this country and its economy. It is like handing $1000 to a kid on his 13th birthday that has known about it and waiting for it since he was 5....he is going to blow it as fast as he can and mostly on bullshit.

The absolute bullshit coming from this administration in the first 3 months is just staggering. It took Bush a full term to really begin fucking things up and Obama and his handpicked crew of bumbling idiots is off to a start that could make Bush look like a genious....and that should be truly worrisome to everyone.

Just in the last couple of days we have seen this dumbass propose a multi-billion dollar high speed passenger rail system, propose that we help fix Mexico's problems, and one of his advisers is now publishing that they want to bail out the newspapers. Now exactly how he is going to run that high speed rail bullshit through and force taxpayers to pay for it is going to be spectacular seeing as how he intends to run it through states who are already running through the 10th Amendment reinforcing bills.

I dunno, the stock market is beginning to improve. I can speak first hand about the real estate market re-exploding mostly due to Obama's stimulus changing the First Time Home buyer credit. My companies stock is almost back up to 5 dollars from almost under a dollar since Obama took office.

Funkmasterr · Post by **Funkmasterr** » April 22, 2009, 1:34 am

Fairweather Pure wrote:George Galloway said everything to the US Senate 4 years ago that I want to communicate to every Bush apologist and current Republican. Btw, the cringing little bitch who refuses to look him in the eye is Republican Norm Coleman, the guy currenlty losing his seat to Al Franken. This is a verbal beat down for the ages. You can view the entire speech on youtube. Below is just one of the juicier exerpts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrdFFCnY ... re=related

i hope everyone that voted for franken has all the bad things in life happen to them.

However if you think this "election" is over and frankens "win" is final you're mistaken. The way this whole thing has been handled is a joke, we should have held a new election by now, with absentee votes not being allowed.

Spang · Post by **Spang** » April 22, 2009, 1:40 am

Funkmasterr wrote:The way this whole thing has been handled is a joke, we should have held a new election by now, with absentee votes not being allowed.

What do you got against the men and women of our armed forces? You don't think their votes should count?

Xatrei · Post by **Xatrei** » April 22, 2009, 1:57 am

Why does Funkmasterr hate the troops?

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » April 22, 2009, 2:00 am

He might be a terrorist.

Spang · Post by **Spang** » April 22, 2009, 2:06 am

He's a one man terror cell.

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » April 22, 2009, 2:13 am

To Gitmo with him!! Oh wait... Thanks a lot, Obama!