UI Screenshots?

noel · Post by **noel** » April 9, 2007, 1:14 am

Diae,

One question... You used to box a hell of a lot in EQ, are you able to do it to the same degree in WoW? It seems like it would be extremely difficult in WoW, but I am in fact a n00b, so I'm curious.

One other thing. I play a warrior and I'd really like to find the best mod to allow me to switch between different weapon configurations as I switch stances or immediately after switching stances. I've heard of several of them, but if anyone has anything they prefer, I'd be interested in learning about them.

Thanks!

cadalano · Post by **cadalano** » April 9, 2007, 9:21 am

http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/download ... quickswap/

you can also use ItemRack
http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/download ... /itemrack/

here's some other shit:
http://www.wowwiki.com/Useful_macros/Warrior

Zaelath · Post by **Zaelath** » April 9, 2007, 5:34 pm

noel wrote:Diae,

One question... You used to box a hell of a lot in EQ, are you able to do it to the same degree in WoW? It seems like it would be extremely difficult in WoW, but I am in fact a n00b, so I'm curious.

Thanks!

I have 4 boxed a paladin, enchanter, cleric, druid (3 on one computer w/ eqwindows, cleric on the other) and happily farm away...

I used to raid with 2-3 clerics in the rotation and my druid still doing 90% of it's damage...

the concept of even bothering to try boxing in WoW, without running bots, seems laughable to me. That's not necessarily a good thing, and I don't say it as a recommendation of WoW, there's just too many buttons to click in some kind of whack-a-mole fashion, to possibly do that on two different classes at once (running two mages might be ok...).

Diae Soulmender · Post by **Diae Soulmender** » April 13, 2007, 8:32 pm

noel wrote:Diae,

One question... You used to box a hell of a lot in EQ, are you able to do it to the same degree in WoW? It seems like it would be extremely difficult in WoW, but I am in fact a n00b, so I'm curious.

You can multi-box in WoW, but its pretty tough. Each class really requires a lot of button mashing to get full potential out of them. I suppose if ya played a melee/healer 2 boxing you could do quite well. Lots of button mashing on the melee with the occasional heal from the healer. But you really cant get near full potential out of both due to this mashing as you could in EQ.

noel wrote: One other thing. I play a warrior and I'd really like to find the best mod to allow me to switch between different weapon configurations as I switch stances or immediately after switching stances. I've heard of several of them, but if anyone has anything they prefer, I'd be interested in learning about them.

Thanks!

ItemRack is quite nice.
http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/download ... /itemrack/

Diae Soulmender · Post by **Diae Soulmender** » April 13, 2007, 8:34 pm

Zaelath wrote:
noel wrote:Diae,

One question... You used to box a hell of a lot in EQ, are you able to do it to the same degree in WoW? It seems like it would be extremely difficult in WoW, but I am in fact a n00b, so I'm curious.

Thanks!
I have 4 boxed a paladin, enchanter, cleric, druid (3 on one computer w/ eqwindows, cleric on the other) and happily farm away...

I used to raid with 2-3 clerics in the rotation and my druid still doing 90% of it's damage...

the concept of even bothering to try boxing in WoW, without running bots, seems laughable to me. That's not necessarily a good thing, and I don't say it as a recommendation of WoW, there's just too many buttons to click in some kind of whack-a-mole fashion, to possibly do that on two different classes at once (running two mages might be ok...).

I regularly 4 boxed in EQ.
4 machines
4 monitors
4 accounts

Beastlord, Ranger, Cleric and Berserker.

Boxing in EQ versus Boxing in WoW are really hugely different as everything about the play "style" is different. More button mashing and far quicker pacing.

I dont recommend boxing in WoW.

miir · Post by **miir** » April 16, 2007, 12:57 pm

Diae Soulmender wrote:Yer an angry bitter man Miir. Luckily I have thick skin and take everything written online with a grain of salt.

I really doubt you are like this to your mother/father/girlfriend/wife/brother/friends/boss/coworkers because otherwise you would be a poor, homeless, lonely, bitter, angry man. Obviously you are not homeless because you are posting online. Thus this means you have a job to pay the bills thus meaning you are not, in fact, an assmonkey to your boss. Also, since you are posting, it would mean you are "alive" thus you didnt piss your parents off to the point of a post-birth abortion which again means you are not what you make yourself to be.

Thus it really boils down to this: You are not what you seem.

Peace jackhole. I still love you.

Well duhhhh....
Congrats to you figuring out that I'm a troll in the WOW forum.
Welcome to 2 years ago.

Check out Xanupox in this thread trying to defend his little Lord of the Rings kiddie game:

http://www.veeshanvault.org/forums/view ... hp?t=20086

most classes in WoW have 3 spells they use and thats about it

Diae Soulmender · Post by **Diae Soulmender** » April 16, 2007, 2:12 pm

Xanupox ... didnt he quit EQ around mid-Planes of Power?

I think comparing MMORPG's is a futile effort. Each has its own flavors/style. To say one is better then the other is mostly subjective. Also to say that one requires more/less skill then the other I think, mostly, is also subjective.

Its a good arguement though and one which could spawn many classic posts.

The only MMORPG's I have ever played are:

EQ1 - 5.5 years
SWG - 2.5 months (so much potential... so gay in the end)
WoW - 2+ years.

Reality is no MMORPG today is either visionary or ground breaking. The only game that can say this (and its only to a certain degree) is EQ1. Everything else followed in its footsteps without introducing anything new... mostly just 'refinement' of what aleady existed.

Someday a company will break ground on an MMORPG that is truely amazing/different, but until then Ill stick with WoW as no matter what game you choose its always the same. The only difference is how you get there. So be happy in the game you play. There is no sense trying to defend your game as being 'better' as you cannot win the arguement nor enlighten anyone to the point of agreeing you.

Example: WoW is the best game ever. Wanna fight about it?

--hehe

Kguku · Post by **Kguku** » April 18, 2007, 12:22 pm

1680x1050 on a 21" widescreen.

Yes I have KTM running. Flame on!

Diae Soulmender · Post by **Diae Soulmender** » April 18, 2007, 1:07 pm

Kguku wrote: Yes I have KTM running. Flame on!

Obviously you dont know how to play.

--hehe

Janx · Post by **Janx** » April 20, 2007, 9:35 am

Combat log = damn right I use KTM

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » April 20, 2007, 10:15 am

All the people slamming KTM really need to read this article and recognize what a scrub they are.

http://www.sirlin.net/Features/feature_ ... nPart1.htm

Play to win bitches.

Miir, Dregor, and Cadalano are naïve and they’ll be trapped in scrubdom, whether they realize it or not, as long as they chooses to live in the mental construct of rules they made themselves.

Psyloche · Post by **Psyloche** » April 20, 2007, 10:53 am

Jesus christ Janx, whats your crit rate lol.

Janx · Post by **Janx** » April 20, 2007, 10:59 am

Generally around 40% or a little higher raid buffed /major agi pot.

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » April 20, 2007, 10:59 am

Psyloche wrote:Jesus christ Janx, whats your crit rate lol.

If he's a feral druid, it should be pretty high! At least 30-35%.

When I'm in cat, I'm at 33% self buffed. Raid buffed and a little bit of gear juggeling and I can hit 40ish%.

Rogues have really good white dmg, while cats have really good yellow dmg. I like how it works that way. The same, yet different.

On average, I still get outdmged by rogues on raids, but goddamn they have to work for it! If the mobs is bleed immune, my dps drops quite a bit.

Good to see another feral around these boards

vn_Tanc · Post by **vn_Tanc** » April 20, 2007, 11:35 am

Fairweather Pure wrote:All the people slamming KTM really need to read this article and recognize what a scrub they are.

http://www.sirlin.net/Features/feature_ ... nPart1.htm

Play to win bitches.

Miir, Dregor, and Cadalano are naïve and they’ll be trapped in scrubdom, whether they realize it or not, as long as they chooses to live in the mental construct of rules they made themselves.

If it's impossible to beat these mobs without it you'd be right.
Is it?

I play to win and I use almost vanilla UI. Because part of my definition of winning is not being unable to play when a patch cripples my UI plug-ins.

cadalano · Post by **cadalano** » April 20, 2007, 11:37 am

KTM is just a waste of memory, sorry

If it actually WORKED then yeah, I would use it.

I'm not completely off base- I'm always #1 DPS by a large margin so I'm not just talking out my ass. If I was to actually manage my aggro based on KTM, my DPS would be much much lower. I couldn't begin to tell you technically WHY its inaccurate, but I can go well beyond the point where its telling me that I should pull aggro.. in fact I can even go beyond the 30% buffer where I should be making the MT eligible for Prince's enfeebles and its still inaccurate. Maybe its just innaccurate for rogues, i dunno.

The reason its hailed as such a fantastic mod is because the values it shows are so innaccurate (displaying your aggro as much higher than it actually is... for a rogue anyway).. that it really is impossible to pull aggro because its holding back your output so much. It works in the same way as an Elephant Repellant. Dont see any elephants do you? Must be working!

I shouldnt dog on people who use it though because like I said.. if it did actually represent threat accurately I would use it.. its the mod that sucks!

Kwonryu DragonFist · Post by **Kwonryu DragonFist** » April 20, 2007, 2:53 pm

Diae with The Iaes was the Master Boxer of EQ!

I first thought they were relatives and friends playing for real

Dregor Thule · Post by **Dregor Thule** » April 20, 2007, 3:32 pm

I've been called a scrub, obviously I lose. Oh well, where'd I put my razor?

Truant · Post by **Truant** » April 20, 2007, 4:02 pm

Having played with both Cadalano and Dregor, I can categorically say they are not scrubs (nor banana heads).

Dregor Thule · Post by **Dregor Thule** » April 20, 2007, 4:06 pm

Truant wrote:Having played with both Cadalano and Dregor, I can categorically say they are not scrubs (nor banana heads).

U R SUCH A SCRUB

Post by **Sylvus** » April 20, 2007, 4:08 pm

I don't want no scrubs.
A scrub is a guy who can't get no love from me.
Hanging out the passenger side
of his best friend's ride,
trying to holla at me.

masteen · Post by **masteen** » April 20, 2007, 4:51 pm

With the number of aggro sensitive fights in TBC, who doesn't run KTM anymore?

Psyloche · Post by **Psyloche** » April 20, 2007, 4:55 pm

I don't know why we can't just move past the whole some people really like KTM and some people think it's a waste? COME ON GUYZ.

One time I saw Xouqoa in AV and I threw him off a bridge (hopefully to his death) but the 3 allies next to him made me explode a fiery, mortally striked, skillcoiled death.

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » April 20, 2007, 6:01 pm

Psyloche wrote:I don't know why we can't just move past the whole some people really like KTM and some people think it's a waste? COME ON GUYZ.

One time I saw Xouqoa in AV and I threw him off a bridge (hopefully to his death) but the 3 allies next to him made me explode a fiery, mortally striked, skillcoiled death.

Hardpacked snowballs were SOOOO much fun on the bridge in AV!

Zaelath · Post by **Zaelath** » April 20, 2007, 9:21 pm

cadalano wrote:KTM is just a waste of memory, sorry

If it actually WORKED then yeah, I would use it.

If everyone has the same version it's pretty decent. I'll pull agro off the tank pretty quickly after getting higher than him on the list, as will the priest I run with most of the time...

It's definitely no substitute for skill

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » April 20, 2007, 10:55 pm

Btw, I don't use KTM. It's the attitude that I'm seeing against it that I'm trying to expose as a flawed video game value system.

I did get bitched at in a PuG once because I wasn't running it. Not because I was losing aggro, but because it was throwing off everyone else's numbers that run it

Kguku · Post by **Kguku** » April 21, 2007, 7:15 am

KTM really seems to require everyone to run the same version or it just starts getting completely out of sync numbers. That being said, I run it so the DPSers can kind of guage what I'm sitting at for TPS more than anything else, as that is what makes that tool so handy, not the actual threat meter, but the TPS you're currently pumping out as the tank.

For example, if I'm in a heroics and the DPS note that I suddenly get a string of TF procs by seeing my TPS jump substantially they know they can open up full tilt on that mob and I know I don't even need to worry about it anymore and can start working on whatever CC'd mob is next, allowing the DPS to continue to remain at full tilt for the remaining stuff.

It's not infallible, but really for the small memory footprint/resources it uses, as an MT it's a non-issue that I'm running it, and makes other people happy because of it.

If people are bitching because it slows down their machine / uses too much memory, then all I have to say to that is upgrade from your 1.3GHz P3 or some shit and invest in more than 256megs of ram. That, or stop downloading all that porn in the background.

Sargeras · Post by **Sargeras** » April 23, 2007, 3:19 am

Here's mine!

Dregor Thule · Post by **Dregor Thule** » April 23, 2007, 5:48 am

Snagglebeard wants to get wit you, yo!

Kwonryu DragonFist · Post by **Kwonryu DragonFist** » April 23, 2007, 12:26 pm

Bubba Sarg!

That Dorf looks like a BEEF!

But what! You can have Murlok pets now???

Morgrym · Post by **Morgrym** » April 23, 2007, 12:51 pm

Pretty sure those are only rewarded to the folks that attended the first wow related Blizzcon.

archeiron · Post by **archeiron** » April 23, 2007, 1:36 pm

Morgrym wrote:Pretty sure those are only rewarded to the folks that attended the first wow related Blizzcon.

Yes, and it gets out a tophat and dances every now and then.

cadalano · Post by **cadalano** » April 23, 2007, 1:45 pm

rememer kids, you cant spell retarded without ret!

just kidding. or am i?

archeiron · Post by **archeiron** » April 23, 2007, 1:59 pm

cadalano wrote:rememer kids, you cant spell retarded without ret!

just kidding. or am i?

Both!

Sargeras · Post by **Sargeras** » April 23, 2007, 3:02 pm

cadalano wrote:rememer kids, you cant spell retarded without ret!

just kidding. or am i?

archeiron wrote:Yes, and it gets out a tophat and dances every now and then.

http://murky.ytmnd.com
http://murlocdancinglol.ytmnd.com

Kwonryu DragonFist · Post by **Kwonryu DragonFist** » April 23, 2007, 3:28 pm

That Murloc-dance Just Plain ROCKS!

Dregor Thule · Post by **Dregor Thule** » April 23, 2007, 4:43 pm

Not even I would play a raiding ret paly, and I'm an enh shaman!

sarge

Sargeras · Post by **Sargeras** » April 23, 2007, 5:52 pm

Dregor Thule wrote:Not even I would play a raiding ret paly, and I'm an enh shaman!

sarge

I will admit that it is the weakest raiding talent tree, but it's just so much fun.

I'm hoping that Imp Sanc Aura on Test turns out to be something useful. Although I highly doubt it's going to be as big as Kalgan made it out to be. 1/2% damage increase to all parties in the group is a step in the right direction, but I'd rather see 2/4%.

cadalano · Post by **cadalano** » April 23, 2007, 11:10 pm

here's mine

Dregor Thule · Post by **Dregor Thule** » May 6, 2007, 12:43 pm

Figured I should post mine. I like it simple.

*edit: neat sig generator cad

Kwonryu DragonFist · Post by **Kwonryu DragonFist** » May 6, 2007, 1:11 pm

That Orc looks cool Dre!

Fire and Ice!

Kwonryu DragonFist · Post by **Kwonryu DragonFist** » May 10, 2007, 3:13 pm

Let's see some Chomsky-pics here.