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Too early for Obama to be included.

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To address a couple of things, the "deemed passed" vote is nothing more than a tactic to be used so there is no yes or no vote to tie these people to. They are considering that for only one reason...and that is that they KNOW they are going to get their asses handed to them in November be...

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Also: I love the idea of the GOP running on repeal in the fall. Good luck overriding a Presidential veto guys. The GOP has energy and momentum-- if they blow it all futilely trying to repeal a law that's not going anywhere, I'll be thrilled. Assuming it passes.

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Update: The vote is thus far shaping up as I described. Some media outlets (right, left, and neutral) are starting to treat passage as an inevitability. I'm not-- the whip count still doesn't look great. It may be that Pelosi has people who are committed behind the scenes and haven't gone public yet...

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Capitol Hill is fucking nuts right now. Every major player-- the Chamber of Commerce, AHIP, the unions, OfA, the pro-life lobby, the tea party groups, and way more-- are mounting a desperate last-minute push. The switchboard is overloaded. The tea partiers have tried to organize people to flood offi...

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I'm with Kilmoll. That would be fucking awesome.

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A few things: Regardless of what you may have heard people suggest, the idea that "terrorism" means "violence by Muslims" becomes a lot stronger when the same act is deemed "terrorism" when it's committed by a Muslim but not when it's committed by a non-Muslim. If he wa...

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So I know you wanted the last word and all, and I was going to let you have it, but when David Petraeus says this, I can't pass it up. Petraeus was even more candid when asked about the interrogation methods used during the Bush years, making the case that they ultimately harmed the country more tha...

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To show how hard he is, duh. Don't you take your shirt off before you slap someone out of their chair?

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Great card.

Kwon, thoughts on the main event?

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The Detroit bombing attempt was undeniably terrorism; he was sent on a mission by al Qaeda. The Fort Hood shooting is a better parallel, I think. My understanding is that, while the shooter there had communicated with extremists, he acted alone. Am I wrong on this? Lloyd Dogget (Texas Congressman) c...

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This was something that I immediately thought about as well. Everyone seems unified that this is not terrorism-- cable news, commentators, Barack Obama. Why isn't it? When I first heard about it, I thought "oh my gosh, domestic terrorism." Timothy McVeigh didn't have a "nexus" to...

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Please do not try to suggest there are more credible reports that say torture does vs. doesn't work, that is just wrong. . .plenty of good/bad stuff on both sides. You keep trying to take the side of fact, but the facts are just not on your side, there is not a side of fact here, only of opinion. Y...

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I do not know how this degenerated into Bush vs. Obama It's not Bush vs. Obama, it's Torture vs. No Torture. Bush was an unabashed pro-torture President, Obama is not. If we're talking about the efficiency of torture, then talking about outcomes in a torture era vs. outcomes in a no-torture era see...

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Both sides have points here-- Obama's surveillance policies are, in fact, less intrusive than Bush's. But, some of the positions taken by the Obama administration on surveillance issues are surprising and disappointing to a lot of progressive folks (or, at least, me). It's not fair to claim that Oba...

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That's fair to say, although I think you may be understating the issues on which he's actually moderate (not by much). Nevertheless, I do think it's important that he is (for instance) opposed to Sarah Palin and (for instance) supportive of Ted Strickland. Although it's a little odd that Strickland ...

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I'm sure that the CIA had a substantial role in the capture. There were two different elements that had to be in place to capture Baradar: We needed good intelligence making it possible, and we needed the cooperation of the Pakistani military and government. Both of those things are real challenges....

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I think that Aab and Fair are basically correct on this one. Kilmoll: We had two options: Go into a complete worldwide meltdown now, or use bailouts to forestall widespread misery and to give us time to try to fix the structural problems that lead us into possible-meltdown situations. It doesn't sou...

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Avestan, you're drastically overstating the benefits of torture and drastically understating it's benefits (such as the risk of getting what you want to hear). It's obvious that torture has given us some extremely bad and damaging intelligence in the past. It's also obvious that non-torture methods ...

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Well, if "centrist" means something along the lines of "a shared position between democrats and republicans," then yes, they are. Also, if it means something like "in principle, something which is considered occasionally necessary by almost all policy experts," then yes...

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This thread makes me glad that I quit playing MMO's for so many different reasons.

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I'm sorry, when did PAKISTAN holding a militant who was captured by PAKISTANI forces in a PAKISTANI raid in PAKISTANI territory become an unusual "joint custody for the purposes of torture" affair? American cooperation basically means American intelligence plus American diplomatic prodding...

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Jice: 100% agree that the crazy needs to be reined in somehow. Also agree that the crazy is much more problematic on the right than the left at this point in time. I just think that if the only solution is starting to advance the career of Megan McCain-- a random 20something woman whose sole virtues...

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If the GOP really wanted to move forward, Megan McCain is where they should start. I don't agree with her views on a lot of things, but shes at least reasonable and (more importantly) less than 100 years old. Seriously? Sure, she's reasonable. But she has no experience, no policy knowledge, no noth...

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I now constantly use the term "lats like a Manta Ray" and nobody else seems to get it. It's a great phrase.

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Midnyte: I know it's not quite "around here" for you, but you can find Trades Joes in Philadelphia in a few spots, if you ever find yourself down there. It's worth dropping by to stock up on a few things that they do really well and really cheaply-- nuts and dried fruit, for instance-- and...

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Another good option for teams that need a veteran backup quarterback who can teach a young guy and take over competently if necessary: Chad Pennington.

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Agreed. I don't think that Carr's failure means that he has no talent or couldn't have been successful. He got sacked out of the game. But, looking forward, it doesn't matter why he failed; just that he did. This is one of those things that's going to bite me in the ass in 2012 when David Carr is ha...

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Jury's definitely still out, but I don't think we're anywhere close to slamming the door. Leinart had a pretty good rookie year; he started 12 games and played pretty decently. His numbers were substantially better than those of any rookie this year, and they hold up just fine by historical standard...

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If only the Cardinals already had a young, talented quarterback prospect on their roster to develop...

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Aab, why can't you believe the allegation?

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For me, a new gadget needs to displace one of the gadgets I already own. I'm kind of a minimalist in the gadget sense. Given that I already have a laptop and an iPhone, I don't see why I would buy this. I'm sure that it does some things better than either my laptop or my phone does, but unless it re...

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Sueven and Aardor are realistically the furthest lefties that I can count among people I am friendly with and can openly exchange views without wanting to choke the life out of them. Thanks! I do think it's somewhat unfair to claim that Kilmoll is an extreme right-wing guy (by American standards). ...

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I would just ask Kilmoll to explain how Bush went about funding No Child Left Behind, Medicare Part D, etc. Question about the Veteren comment about Spang being one and if Midnyte was...what difference does that make? I was just curious. I seem to remember Spang being in the military. If he fought i...

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Nah, that wouldn't leave nearly enough space for discussing Apple and Sony. Football: I think the Colts are going to beat the Saints solidly. Probably by two scores. The Saints kind of seem like a more extreme version of the 1994 Chargers. That was the year the Chargers started out 6-0, went 5-5 aft...

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Winnow may be my favorite message board poster ever. Keep in mind that he's done this for TWENTY THOUSAND posts. How long did Searyx last? A month?

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1. Pelosi is the last person who's laying down and dying; she's the strongest fighter that the Democrats have. Harry Reid may be laying down and dying, as are the Blue Dog Dems, and the Progressive Caucus isn't making anything easier, and... but Nancy Pelosi will be the last person fighting. 2. If y...

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Well, if the Cards would take a late pick, sure I'd add him. He's a great player. It's just not worth investing serious resources in the position, given that it would involve pushing Maclin back to the bench and there are other areas that need more help. And Boldin's rookie season is legendary. 55/7...

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I can't see Boldin going to Philadelphia. DeSean Jackson is firmly entrenched as the team's top receiver. Jeremy Maclin had 55/762 as a rookie who missed a few games. Jason Avant is an ideal possession receiver who always makes the tough catches. Brent Celek evolved into a top-notch weapon at the ti...

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Kilmoll, who do you see as an ideal 2012 republican candidate?

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I'm embarrassed for having posted in this thread. I apologize.

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Are you seriously that sure that there are no Muslims on VV? (I mean, you're very likely right, given the absurdly narrow demographic range of this board. But Jesus, to say "fuck Muslims"-- a religion with one and a half BILLION adherents-- on the internet, and to assume that this isn't so...

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Maybe. Part of Obama's advantage was his innovative and successful fundraising given the existing regulatory infrastructure, and who knows how it would have shaken out with a different set of rules. It would have made some things easier on McCain. But, considering the margin of Obama's win and the d...

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Have the Suns broken their TNT losing streak yet? The Sixers are pretty terrible this year. I was a huge fan of the Elton Brand acquisition; I'll admit that I was horribly wrong about that. The Sixers are looking to do some trading. It's tough, because we really don't have much value to build around...

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Aab, your problem is that you're looking at Fox News, MSNBC and CNN. Coverage of this has been all over the political news. It was the top headline on Politico for awhile, and you can find plenty of coverage on The New Republic or the Weekly Standard. It is also, of course, the top news on most lega...

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Before this weekend rolls around and Winnow starts gloating: The Colts (a 14-2 powerhouse) beating the Jets (a 9-7 wild card team that snuck into the playoffs) in Indianapolis will prove precisely jack shit about the relative balance between offense and defense in the NFL. It will provide another da...

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Big loss for the Democrats, no matter how you spin it and no matter who you blame.

The bottom line is that the Republicans are better at politics than the Democrats are. It's embarrassing.

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seriously, when did Nick transform from scrappy Irish lad to high and mighty aristocrat?

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The top three passing performances in the Super Bowl all belong to Kurt Warner. That is an amazing stat. I agree with you, the Cards has as good a shot as anybody from the NFC to make the Super Bowl. They will have to play a little more defense, though. Cowboys looked great too. In fact, all the te...

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Well he is making claims about both pronunciation and spelling. I don't have it in me to be offended either by the blatant misuse of language or the gratuitous potshots at America, because I have literally never seen someone confuse "do" and "due" before. Maybe I need to read dif...

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